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Unexpected Health Insurance Rate Shock-California Obamacare Insurance Exchange Announces Premiums
Forbes ^ | 5/24/2013 | Rick Ungar

Posted on 05/26/2013 11:24:17 AM PDT by HawkHogan

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To: HawkHogan

The rates announced were for ages 25 and 40. The catastrophic rates were close to the bronze rates, which indicates there’s an actuarial flaw somewhere.

And, not only are the rates tied to income, but the benefits are tied to income. On the same plan, a burger flipper has a $3 co-pay for an office visit, a middle income worker pays $45. There are no current policies where the benefits are income-indexed, so any comparison is meaningless.

http://www.coveredca.com/news/PDFs/CC_Health_Plans_Booklet.pdf


81 posted on 05/27/2013 12:03:17 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: GOPJ

The benefits in the California plans are already means tested. Lower income patients get better benefits.

http://www.coveredca.com/news/PDFs/CC_Health_Plans_Booklet.pdf


82 posted on 05/27/2013 12:05:33 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

why would co-pays be tied to income? that is weird.


83 posted on 05/27/2013 12:06:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 1010RD

FWIW: the average co-pay for the Bronze level is 40 percent.

So, the article’s comparison is a bit off... but not to the good side. The hypothetical dude is getting less for more.


84 posted on 05/27/2013 12:29:14 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: GeronL

Makes the rates look lower for the bottom income ranges. The California brochure makes several references to “income equality”... which loosely translates as “screw the productive”.


85 posted on 05/27/2013 12:31:43 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: steve86

Out of curiosity, when you had to leave work, did anybody mention the HIPAA “mandatory issue” coverage to you? I had to find out on my own.


86 posted on 05/27/2013 12:38:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Not that I recall. I know HIPAA got going about three years before that. I was on COBRA for 18 months, then went to a temporary one year commercial plan then went to a state plan.


87 posted on 05/27/2013 4:15:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: La Lydia

What happened there? Looks like she got slugged!


88 posted on 05/27/2013 6:45:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: steve86

My status quo in health insurance was OK. The main driver in insurance is government policy. What I suspect is that there is a massive incentive to backload the costs. Democrats don’t want to be driven from government come 2014 & 2016.

One thing the average person doesn’t know or consider is that politicians plot their lives around election dates. Two years is the time horizon, although they plot out further. Leftists become centrists, centrists become rightists, and the reverse as well.

Manipulation is what they do. That these are “private” companies tells me nothing. The top insurer in the state begged off. That tells me more.


89 posted on 05/28/2013 3:32:17 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: steve86

Well that didn’t take long:

Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare to Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums by 64-146%

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/05/30/rate-shock-in-california-obamacare-to-increase-individual-insurance-premiums-by-64-146/


90 posted on 05/30/2013 6:27:29 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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