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Taiwan confirms first H7N9 bird flu case outside China
France24 ^ | 4/24/13

Posted on 04/24/2013 9:28:20 AM PDT by null and void

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To: KC Burke; NautiNurse; reformedliberal
Although I have been criticized for posting this before, I'm posting it again:

From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.

Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.

1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. (Note: Healthy folks w/normal BP would experience a crash in BP, fainting, et al. Those already on other types of BP lowering meds would experience the same.) -or- 1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)

2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.

3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)

4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.

In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic. High doses of the provitamin Beta-carotene, which the body converts to Vitamin A, might work as well as straight Vitamin A, and are much less toxic.

Care should be taken to avoid “health foods” that can artificially enhance the immune system, something to be avoided when there is the prospect of ARD.

This was extracted from an earlier thread I've lost track of, with some comments on Vitamin D from NautiNurse, and on ACE-2 inhibitors from reformedliberal added, and a flat out guess on Beta Carotene from me...

To which I might add zinc inhibits viral reproduction and oregano oil (20 drops/gallon shake well, and drink in place of ordinary water) is also said to help.

21 posted on 04/24/2013 10:10:48 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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“WHO: H7N9 virus ‘one of the most lethal so far’”

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/world/asia/china-birdflu/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular


22 posted on 04/24/2013 10:15:50 AM PDT by bgill
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To: JoeProBono

Guess what’s for dinner? I always wondered where the Asian street vendors bought the food they sell.


23 posted on 04/24/2013 10:31:55 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: null and void

zinc works with the vitamin a


24 posted on 04/24/2013 11:31:46 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: null and void

The Ace-2 inhibator is now being published as an integral item by many of the health org sites, so you were ahead of the general knowledge being distributed on that.


25 posted on 04/24/2013 12:41:17 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years)
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To: null and void

Please add me to this ping list. Thanks


26 posted on 05/01/2013 3:16:32 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: null and void
Thanks for the list!

A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. (Note: Healthy folks w/normal BP would experience a crash in BP, fainting, et al.

Question: Does an Angiotensin II Receptor Antagonist provide a protective effect as well? (these are newer and sort of work a little further along in the chain than the ACE inhibitors). Also, what dose of each?

I wouldn't worry a lot about the crash in BP for most people at anything like a normal starting dose; neither class has a dramatic effect on my BP.

27 posted on 05/01/2013 3:36:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: null and void
I'm just starting to look into this, but perhaps the ARBs (Losartan, etc) do similarly to the ACE inhibitors (Lisinopril, etc.).

"Reduction of Morbidity and Mortality by Statins, Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme Inhibitors, and Angiotensin Receptor Blockers in Patients With Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease"

28 posted on 05/01/2013 3:45:56 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: spetznaz

Added, welcome aboard!


29 posted on 05/01/2013 4:01:54 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

Famotidine also is a histamine-2 blocker and so it turns out I have everything on the list (drug class-wise) without buying anything!


30 posted on 05/02/2013 9:02:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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