Posted on 04/23/2013 4:59:13 AM PDT by SJackson
Thanks justiceseeker93.
I agree, but that an a dollar will almosty get you a coffee at Starhacks.
The SOS of IN has a 200+ page report on a voting machine that he refused to clear for use in our state. IT was used in every purple state. Get you hands on the report and make it public and everyone will know how Obama won
So true justiceseeker93. Since there is no record of how anyone votes, estimating how they would have voted is very difficult, though perhaps not impossible. I agree that padding or invaliding counts, or busing, or multiple voters, or even illegal voters are not really necessary. There is no verifiable record to corrupt! For what can be verified, the SEIU, which counts most votes, or its contractors, or Secretaries of State, or their contractors, can put any number into voting tabulation summaries and no one has any way to prove they are not counts, and no way to prove that they are!.
Allen West had no data with which to contest, and responses by his Florida precinct managers changed every time they were challenged for numbers. Our system has been modified so not to support or provide any audit trail. The talk now is about using Google or Facebook or Twitter for voting. Might as well ask television viewers to gather on election eve and raise their hands when their candidate's theme song plays. Representation is flawed or nonexistent, at least not through our election process. Google or Bing would come up with more representative numbers by characterizing voter preferences through their constant tracking of every web site we visit. But Google, which helped to put the Muslim Brotherhood into Egypt, and concealed corrupted Supreme Court decisions which would have helped citizens understand that we have positive law defining who are natural born citizen, can not be trusted to report their findings. They can be trusted to submit their data to friends in our FCC, Justice Department and Executive before allowing any such data to reach the naïve world.
These are solvable problems but the corruption within our government, and within both parties is so ubiquitous as to make solutions like Germany's return to paper ballots unlikely until we experience revolutionary changes in our government. Without representation, our only hope now is to assert change locally. Our failing economy, even with big banks doing well, may inspire change; but then again, it may not.
He was re-elected because the stupid people are everywhere!
Please clarify. I'm presuming that the Indiana SOS is a Republican, saw this report on a particular voting machine, thought it was too vulnerable to hacking, and didn't allow its use in the state of Indiana. Am I correct? If so and that particular device was used in Indiana in 2008, it might explain how Zero won the state in 2008 and lost it in 2012.
Now who was the manufacturer of the suspect device (Diebold)? And is the SOS's report available to the public on the Internet?
BTW, you could consider Indiana as "purple," since it went from 'Rat in the 2008 presidential election to GOP in 2012.
It is a report by the R SOS is my understanding. I know about it because our county had purchased the machine and when it was not certified by the SoS office we had to optain machines from another company. Assume you can get copy of report under F of I from their office. Iirc our county was mentioned on page 2?7. Do not know the name of the company but know our county clerk was concerned that all purple states using this machine would go to 0. She was right. Have sent information to many even before the election. No one seems interested enough to investigate or ask for a copy of the report from the IN SoS
Yes, she was also very perceptive as to the cheating and fraud that was about to go down. And, as I said, your SOS's diligence probably saved Indiana for Romney. Those "purple" states fell like dominoes on election night, one right after the other. And sadly, most of their SOSs were Republicans.
Here's the bottom line: Unless the elections are reasonably honest and fair, little else in politics really matters!!! People in tyrannies around the world have been saying that for a long, long time!
I have been thinking that about the beginning of the year to get FReepers in all these purple states and get these machines inspected. Maybe even form some kind of an organization. But it is still a brain activity at the moment, at least for me.
If I am able to get something off the ground I will let you know.
True, but the (mathematical) question I raise is simply this: "What would have been the election result had it been conducted (hypothetically) in an honest and fair manner?"
And in so far as stupid people are concerned, how many actually came out to vote for Zero on their own free will, how many were lured to the polls by Obama operatives, and how many had votes cast in their stead by Obama operatives?
My guess is that cheating and fraud could have made the difference between a Romney win by a popular vote margin of, say, three points and the purported Obama win by a similar percentage popular vote margin. The cheating and fraud was probably on an unprecedented scale!
Obama signaled all of this when he debated Keyes in the Senate race in Illinois. Few listened. Or thought.
I am not in St Joe county. Was referring to the case in the courts of that county for forging names to get BO on the ballot. They had to forge to get him on the ballot yet iirc he handily won the county. It doesn’t compute
I am not in St Joe county. Was referring to the case in the courts of that county for forging names to get BO on the ballot. They had to forge to get him on the ballot yet iirc he handily won the county. It doesn’t compute
Greg. They can pass inspection. It’s just can be manipulated is what I was led to believe. We need to read the report from IN SOS to see what the problem was that he decertified it
Indeed. Thanks for the ping!
There is a video out there that shows how the machines are manipulated. They can be checked quit easily. Unfortunately at this time I am too busy to start this process but when I do I will have all the necessary information.
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