Posted on 04/03/2013 3:25:29 PM PDT by BigReb555
Good luck my man
If the blue state jackals aren’t here already they soon will be
As the Confederates saw it, they seceded BEFORE they took up arms. In your words you acknowledge the secession: ' state that the seccesh lost.' That being the case, they were a separate nation, and therefor enemy combatants, not traitors. So which is it, were they secessionists, or traitors? (Because it's one or the other)
That's pretty much the way Lincoln viewed it.
I merely referenced the article, and what it said; that does not give you license to publicly slather me with your slimy babble. Do you take your debating instruction from Chris “Spraymouth” Matthews?
Tojo is to Tokyo as King George III is to London, not Washington D.C..
There are at least two statues of King George III in London and another in Weymouth. He was much loved in England.
There is a Tojo Memorial Gardens in Rochester, NY (But it is in memory of Yasuji Tojo, a photography student at Rochester Institute of Technology) But there IS an Emperor Hirohito Memorial Museum in Tokyo.
Anyone can use a search engine:
President Warren G. Harding, President Woodrow Wilson, President McKinley, President Calvin Coolidge, and President Harry S. Truman.
Wilson sympathized with the Klan as depicted in Birth of a Nation, but he was too young for the old Klan and already in the White House when the new Klan was founded.
And I really doubt Coolidge was a Klan member.
It was a secret organization, of course he would deny it... 1st rule of Fight Club.
“Why should any public park be dedicated to traitors?”
In the case of Forrest Park, he and his wife are buried on what was his property.
Since when did you care about facts?
Forest arrived to Fort Pillow after the massacre had begun, and put a stop to it. He did not instigate that event.
As for the Ku Klux Klan: there are two distinct eras; you associate Forest with the Klan of the 1950’s and ‘6o’s. In Forest’s time it was a vigilante group, founded out of necessity, to protect the property of native Southerners from predatory yankee opportunists.
Once reconstruction ended and self government was restored, the Klan disbanded.
“Denial is one thing.... facts is another. Fact: Nathan Bedford Forrest was a founder of the Ku Klux Klan and was responsible for the Fort Pillow massacre.”
You might want to bone up on the facts of the Fort Pillow Massacre. Forrest rode between his troops and the Union troops to enforce the cease fire orders. Don’t let facts get in the way of you ignorance though
“Do you really think that someone involved with terrorizing and murdering people would admit it???”
What sources do you cite for that accusation? That Forrest was involved in the beginning of the KKK is in little dispute, no evidence of being or advocating “Nightriders” is there.
Can we see citations? Not accusations, but the confirmations?
In the case of Forrest, it is where he and his wife are buried. It was his property. Forrest was honored mostly for what he did after the war. Putting together the private consortium that built the first railroad bridge to cross the Mississippi river at Memphis was no small accomplishment. Forrest was a prominent businessman and not the KKK madman that uninformed folks like yourself like to portray ignorantly
Why were they named for Southern leaders in the first place?
Have you ever asked the question of why the US Army has bases named Ft Bragg, and FT Hood?
From what I’ve read it looked like Coolidge was the victim of a smear campaign. I saw several allegations but never any evidence.
Wilson was a stone racist but the evidence against him was just as slim.
I never researched McKinley.
“Don’t you DARE to presume what I will be telling you next...”
Repeating what an article says is no substitute for learning and critical thinking. Maybe you should learn more about a topic before interjecting yourself into a discussion - See my tagline.
“That Forrest was involved in the beginning of the KKK is in little dispute...”
That’s what I thought, but apparently stating such a thing lathers up the emotionally invested.
There are other aspects of General Forrest’s life that are more in doubt and more controversial - involvement in the KKK is not one of them.
Here are a few things for anyone who might be interested. (muahwiya, if you haven’t seen these, maybe they’ll be suitable for your collection.)
The history & economics they didn’t teach you in school
http://www.libertyclassroom.com/
Comes a stillness
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2013/01/comes-a-stillness-by-paul-greenberg.html
Authentic History of the Ku Klux Klan, Susan Lawrence Davis, 1924
available to read online or download
http://archive.org/stream/authentichistor00davi#page/n9/mode/2up
The Indiana Historical Research Foundation- Klan History pages (with newspaper clippings from the times, photographs, & other artifacts)
My maternal 3rd great grandfather was a slave owner. My 1st generation ancestors on my father’s side *were* slaves (indentured Irish), both husband and wife.
Many thanks to those who have tried to set the record straight, especially you, BigReb. I guess carpetbaggers & scalawags are saints, now. /s
God Bless.
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