Posted on 04/01/2013 4:33:46 PM PDT by neverdem
Paul Ehrlich failed.
Al Gore failed.
Next up for the globalist control movement is; water.
Thanks,....
Yadda, yadda, yadda.Meanwhile, China alone is building dozens of new coal-fired electric power plants. There is really no evidence (which is admittedly different from evidence of absence) that CO2 has or will cause global climate change. If it doesn’t, well and good - and if it does, well - it did. But there wasn’t anything practical for us to have done about it in any event; that train left the station decades ago.
But even if the climate changes, we, or our grandchildren, might have a post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy to debate.
But if there’s one thing we do know, it’s that whether or not their warnings correspond to any reality at all or not, the people who are telling us that the sky is falling are acting in their own best interests by doing so. We also know that they presume that they can simply change the subject any time it becomes obvious that a prediction of theirs is groundless. And that fraud has been committed by “scientists” who wanted to sell the thesis that the sky is falling.
>>>Despite all the work on sensitivity, no one really knows how the climate would react if temperatures rose by as much as 4°C. Hardly reassuring.<<<
No one knows how the climate would react if temperatures stayed the same for the next century, either. It’s a dynamic system. Simply keeping the temperature the same, while the Earth’s orbit shifts and changes, and solar radiation rises and falls, would still mean that changes would happen that we can’t predict.
Despite the fearmongering, I can’t figure out how a warmer and wetter planet would be bad for people, either. (All the screaming about “drought” misses the point that severe global droughts last occurred at the height of the Ice Ages, when much of the water was taken up as ice in contintential glaciers. Warmer air holds more moisture.)
My own theory about all this - and much of the social sciences - is that we tend to see patterns in everything. It’s our nature. Even in places where no patterns exist. We’ve become so good at measuring every little nuance, every speck of group behavior and dynamics, every little molecule of air, that we’re imposing our own biases and beliefs on the patterns that data creates. Global warming is a great example of trying to extrapolate future trends from current data, but there are many more examples, from disparities in women’s and men’s pay to differences in statistics based on race to links between substance exposure and cancer. We love to find the pattern in everything. It’s a strength sometimes and a weakness, too.
God help us.
May God help us, but we must help ourselves when we can.!
Whether its title or its subtitle is A sensitive matter, this admission by The Economist that, "If climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, climate sensitivity would be on negative watch. But it would not yet be downgraded..." was the kind of story that I made a list for every state and then some.
It's been referenced by a few essays so far:
Michael Barone: The Economist's Emily Litella moment on global warming (Barone thought it was the title too.)
CLIMATE CHANGE ENDGAME IN SIGHT?
The Economist essay is worth the read and wide dissemination by email, not just a few echo chambers on the right. The Economist was always hawking global warming alarmism!
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AGW is a classic case of the correlation equals causation fallacy. The world started industrializing and dumping carbon into the air around 1850 and the Earth began warming about then. Therefore carbon caused the warming. They then began building computer models to "prove" their theory.
Only problem is the Earth is not acting per their models.
Then they jumped on the AGW bandwagon, which they never should have done. Looks like they are starting, ever so slowly, to get off.
This nonsense has been going on for almost 30 years. People need to start asking hard questions. Why has there been no significant warming for so many years? Where are the great seaports that were supposed to be flooded? Where are the small island nations that were supposed to dissappear? Where are the vast swaths of lost cropland in the Northern Hemisphere? Why have the predictions not come true? Why no reaction to the exposure of the Hockey Stick as a fraud? Why no reaction to the Climagate evidence of rigged "science"?
If mainstream publications like The Economist start asking these questions the tried and true response of calling the questioner names and screaming "settled" isn't going to satisfy them.
Put it all together, and as a professional meteorologist and a scientist, I will tell you what it means:
They do not know squat. They cannot predict the future out 1 month, 1 year, 10 years. Yet they want us to put all of the economic decisions of the world in their hands, because they have told us that the sky will fall if we do not.
A pure con game. Many wanted to believe their own con, and did. This is common. It is not excusable.
Our excessive emissions of CO2 should be drastically increasing global temperatures except that secret government agencies are seeding the clouds with reflective metals so sunlight bounces back into the upper atmosphere.
That's why all our kids are autistic, have asthma, and food allergies.
If only the lizard people from the 7th dimension would violate their prime directive and finally come down here and put a stop to all of this Illuminati-driven tinkering with our environment then we could get back on the road to sanity!
LOL!
There was a science fiction story (Fallen Angels, by Niven and Pournelle) which had as part of the plotline that Earth was overdue for another Ice Age, and “global warming” was the only thing holding it off...
Oxymoron of the month.
Interesting that you would describe "climate science" as a "social science".
While it is nominally concerned with the study of physical effects, "climate science" is best described as a "social science" because it is actually driven by political agendae.
Thanks for the links
As far as I can tell, this is the only experimentally demonstrable aspect of "global warming." CO2 does have a rather wide absorption/emission band within the infrared portion of the spectrum (the exact wavelengths escape me for the moment). It is unusual, in that most fluorescence bands occupy far narrower portions of the spectrum. Its behavior as a fluorophore, however, is identical to the behavior of every other fluorophore: it absorbs a photon of light and emits it at a slightly lower energy (which equates to a slight increase in the wavelength). The remaining energy (that is not re-emitted) contributes to the kinetic energy of the molecule.
I have never seen any explanation of why or how the fluorescence of CO2 within that particular band has a more significant effect on atmospheric energy than the fluorescence of all the other gasses in the atmosphere, or even than the fluorescence of CO2 at other wavelengths. Nor have I seen any evidence to suggest that the peculiar behavior of CO2 stands out from the general fluorescent noise all around us.
The idea that CO2 could have a disproportionate effect on atmospheric temperatures is not one that is rigorously tested in a scientific manner. Its scientific basis lies in the fact that many people throw in the line "because of climate change" in papers about completely unrelated subjects.
Unfortunately, IMO, the idea that humans could effect climate change is one that fits into certain politicians' schemes very nicely. Trying to convince us to give up our freedom so they can have more power hasn't worked very well. But if they can convince us that all life on earth will go extinct unless we give up our freedom, they get what they want. So the (leftist power-hungry) politicians pick up on climate change, and they do choose the research they want funded. It's a rather unholy arrangement between politicians and scientists that should not exist. I'm not saying politicians shouldn't fund science--but that they should not set up a situation where you produce results they want (or say your results are what they want--they don't know the difference) or you don't get funded.
Oops, I did go on here. But "global warming" is one of my pet peeves--and you did ping me! < /soap box >
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