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FAA to close 149 air traffic towers as budget cuts bite
BBC ^ | 22 March 2013 Last updated at 16:21 ET | BBC

Posted on 03/22/2013 1:49:36 PM PDT by haffast

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To: uncommonsense
eh - its just dallas executive - in da hood

addison’s open

21 posted on 03/22/2013 2:32:54 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: KarlInOhio
If it is a little airport that averages one flight per hour, then you have to ask why you were paying to have the tower open in the first place.

To validate getting their budget increased year after year after year? Gotta have all those government parasites on the payroll dontcha know.

I would guess that most of these airports are in rural areas and see very little traffic in the first place.

22 posted on 03/22/2013 2:41:44 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: haffast
An Air Traffic Controller says that he will be cut 60% in hours and pay. Klinton cut 10% across the board for government spending and it was no where this which is less than 2% of the budget?
23 posted on 03/22/2013 2:46:53 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: TexasCajun
First, BBC give us a big ugly number....

“On 1 March, $85bn (£56bn) was cut from this year's budget
after Congress failed to reach a budget deal.”

Then, maybe give us the impact to the FAA....

“Overall, the agency must find $637m in savings through the end of the fiscal year, 30 September.”

Oh, I get it, the FAA’s impact is not the big huge number that you lead with, but the (relatively) little number you report later.

But.... what is the percentage cut from what size budget is the impact at the FAA?

No, don't tell us that.

OK, so what is it? From the Department of Transportation we find the FY2012 enacted, and the FY2013 request. The FY2012 was 15,902 and FY 2013 request was 15,172 (dollars in millions)

http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.dev/files/docs/dot_budget_highlights_fy_2013_smaller.pdf

Assuming the “requested” amount then the budget cut for the FAA is 637M/15,172M or 4.1%

But, the BBC can't find the “ink” to let us know the percentage cut.

And, I bet that the DoT/FAA could have found a lot more painless ways to cut.


Maybe I should have stopped. The CNN report claims a 48 Billion budget at the FAA.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/travel/faa-control-tower-closures/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular

By congressional mandate, the FAA must cut nearly $600 million from its nearly $48 billion budget this fiscal year. Because the majority of its 47,000 employees are air traffic controllers, it is impossible to cut its budget without affecting controllers, the agency said.


From the LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-airports-sequestration-20130322,0,396847.story?track=rss

The FAA expects to save up to $50 million this year by closing contract towers, FAA Administrator Michael Huerta has told Congress. The agency accounts for just 20% of the Transportation Department's budget but is being asked to absorb 60% of the cuts. Most of the agency's budget is exempt from the mandatory reductions.


Figures never lie, but liars always figure.

24 posted on 03/22/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by garyb
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To: haffast

Our local airport should be hit with this. Not that we have that much traffic, or that it will be all that hard for them to coordinate their own take-off and landings.


25 posted on 03/22/2013 2:48:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: haffast

Couple days ago i spoke to a couple gulfstream pilots about this while at Fort Pierce International.
They were worried cause this marxist punk is going to close the tower at Marco Island.
Lots of large jets go in and out and someone is gonna get killed they both said.


26 posted on 03/22/2013 2:48:44 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: haffast
We've come a long way from the PATCO strike.

I remember sitting in my living room and cheering. There was a lot to cheer about in those days.

We miss you, Ronnie.

27 posted on 03/22/2013 2:52:40 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: haffast

all this is pure BS served up by a bastard who HATES America and is just this side of 9 years old...


28 posted on 03/22/2013 2:54:31 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: All
all i have heard is atc tower closings - no cuts to anything else at the faa - any cuts or slowing nextgen implementation?
29 posted on 03/22/2013 3:04:48 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: MeganC
"There's no reason why......."

You obviously know squat about ATC.

Akin to having National Guard run the airlines. Just might be a few empty seats, but the excitement factor on the approach paths would bring in lots of spectators and lawyers.

30 posted on 03/22/2013 3:15:29 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: haffast

So I wonder what the mediums are for when the fedguv took over the ATC at these airports, i.e., how much local governments were paying before and after, how much of a budget cut in fedguv real dollars this division is seeing, and how much of a budget cut in real dollars the division’s department is seeing.


31 posted on 03/22/2013 3:17:03 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: haffast
Well if our assjack president had a budget including the FAA CONgress could defund them but since they keep limping us along on a continuing resolution they have actually abdicated their power of the purse to the devil.
32 posted on 03/22/2013 3:28:16 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: dsrtsage
Yeah, that is what the MSM will not report. As I understand it there is no reduction, just no increase. It is revolting, there is no necessity for this type grandstanding, and BTW where are the savings going? Since all that was not funded was the projected increases one would think, given the governments penchant for Continuing Resolution Authority for years that we'd be in just dandy shape. Since no budget has been passed in forever how can the budget be increasing? I thought CRA meant automatically spending up to the previous levels and no more. Someone straighten me out.
33 posted on 03/22/2013 3:31:20 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: diogenes ghost

What I know about ATC is that President Reagan (God Bless His Name!) fired the air traffic controllers and called in the military to do the job and the world didn’t end.


34 posted on 03/22/2013 3:42:09 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: taillightchaser

If only the lamestream media would ask those questions . . .


35 posted on 03/22/2013 4:02:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: haffast
"We heard from communities across the country about the importance of their towers and these were very tough decisions," Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said in a statement.

Translation: Communities across the country made it easier for us to figure out which towers were the ones most wanted by the people, which would be the most painful to close.

-PJ

36 posted on 03/22/2013 4:07:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: sloop
"addison’s open".

;-) I Lived in Dallas / Addison for 19 years.

The Addison airport has a GREAT air museum with many vintage airworthy crafts - it's a MUST SEE: The Cavanaugh Flight Museum

Check out the F-105 Thunderchief. That's what GWB flew in the Coast Guard. It's an unstable intercept rocket with tiny wings. They also have an example of GHWB's airplane that he got shot down in during WWII. See their Fokker D.VII, Spitfire, Curtiss P-40N Warhawk, Messerschmitt Me-109, F4, and much more. MUST SEE for the family!

37 posted on 03/22/2013 4:28:59 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: uncommonsense
i saw the museum was there - never took the time to see it - i’ll have to check it out next time
38 posted on 03/22/2013 4:46:22 PM PDT by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: MeganC
"What I know about ATC...."

Well, you verified you don't know squat about ATC.

Reagan did NOT "call the military in to do the job".

By the way, I was a controller in Chicago Center in '81, one of 22 controllers there who didn't walk out. Trust me, NO military controllers worked there, and it was the most important facility in the country. We did bring in some FAA controllers from less affected facilities like JAX, MIA, DEN, and it took a while for them to be certified on just one sector. It helped, but not a whole lot.

None of the facilities being closed are critical, it is not unusual for Centers to handle uncontrolled airports...I did it for 35 years.

39 posted on 03/22/2013 5:23:35 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: uncommonsense
"Check out the F-105 Thunderchief. That's what GWB flew in the Coast Guard. It's an unstable intercept rocket with tiny wings."

Gee, only three errors there.

GWB was assigned to a squadron equipped with F-102's, not thuds.

GWB did not fly in the Coast Guard.

The F-105 was NOT an unstable rocket with tiny wings. It was designed, and flown, as a fighter-bomber, capable of carrying very heavy loads (this cannot be done with a tiny wing).

40 posted on 03/22/2013 5:38:46 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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