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Backup presidential limo on its way for Obama in Israel after fuel filling failure(Diesel)
theguardian ^ | Wednesday 20 March 2013 09.45 EDT | Matthew Weaver

Posted on 03/20/2013 7:19:16 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie

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To: Sir Napsalot
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61 posted on 03/20/2013 8:12:43 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: cuban leaf

You’re lucky you didn’t drive off. The fuel in the fuel lines would have gotten you about a half mile down the road before all heck broke loose and it wouldn’t have been as simple as draining the tank. Maybe not a disaster, but definitely a boat payment.


62 posted on 03/20/2013 8:15:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

63 posted on 03/20/2013 8:15:36 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: RS_Rider

“the “Beast” is diesel powered.”

True. This story is backwards.


64 posted on 03/20/2013 8:18:49 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: SampleMan
Diesel has many components, most of which are deleterious to the cohesion of the seal materials used with gasoline.

Its much the same problem as using petroleum based solvents to clean brake parts. Its not a corrosion issue.

65 posted on 03/20/2013 8:20:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It is my understanding that to protect the POTUS on foreign trips many of the supplies are transported from the US presumably including the fuel for the limo. The current limo, the Beast, is diesel powered. I can’t imagine the Secret Service screwing up in fueling the limo with local fuel or not knowing what fuel to use. Perhaps the Secret Service was too preoccupied checking out the local brothels.


66 posted on 03/20/2013 8:20:53 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thanks for the chuckle.


67 posted on 03/20/2013 8:26:59 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

68 posted on 03/20/2013 8:33:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: editor-surveyor
Diesel has many components, most of which are deleterious to the cohesion of the seal materials used with gasoline.

Interesting, given how damaging gasoline is to most materials. Are these components additives to diesel?

69 posted on 03/20/2013 8:49:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Bob

Blonde, brunette, or redhead? :=)


heh, heh. After I posted I realized that would be the logical conclusion. ;-)

But I think it was someone honking their horn or something like that.


70 posted on 03/20/2013 8:49:15 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I’m not sure about the relative CO2 per joule of diesel vs. gasoline, diesel certainly has more joules per liter (or foot pounds per gallon), but diesel is worse in terms of particulates.

Longer carbon chains in the molecules (according to Wikipedia "... resulting in a mixture of carbon chains that typically contain between 8 and 21 carbon atoms per molecule" compared to pure octane which is 8 carbon atoms per molecule) means that a greater proportion of the exhaust is CO2.

Obama's motto: Green for thee but not for me.

71 posted on 03/20/2013 8:51:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes, it was odd that it immediately was affected. I suppose with the old Saab fuel injection there is not a lot of fuel in the system between the tank and the detination chamber.


72 posted on 03/20/2013 8:51:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: The Great RJ
Possible scenario:
[Beast pulls up to gas station. Secret Service agent gets out to pump diesel. "The Won" spies some Palestinians lingering nearby, gets out of the limo to show off.]
The Won: "Here, here! Step aside. I'll pump the gas." [reaches for wrong pump]
SS Agent #1: "But sir..."
The Won: "I said, step aside!" [waves and smiles at Palis. Puts wrong fuel in limo]
[SS Agent #1 gives helpless look to SS Agent #2]
SS Agent #2: [Smiles, whispers to SS Agent #1] "Let him do it. This'll be priceless."
The Won: [finishes up, flashes thumbs up to Palis, gets back in limo] "Alright! Let's go!"

73 posted on 03/20/2013 8:52:46 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Was it Obama's limo or one privided by the Israeli govt?

If Obama's, does it fly on Air Force 1 with him or via separate plane?

74 posted on 03/20/2013 8:56:10 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: SampleMan
HOWEVER, putting gasoline in a diesel can have some very expensive results.

I saw the results of putting car gasoline into a prop plane's engine which needed 100 octane avgas. The premature detonations tore the pistons to hell. The wife of the pilot brought in one of the pistons for a little show and tell at work. I would expect gasoline in a diesel engine would be similar if you could get the engine started.

75 posted on 03/20/2013 8:59:01 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Israel taking out the Beast with gasoline sounds like bacteria taking out the Martians in War Of The Worlds.


76 posted on 03/20/2013 9:04:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Hot Tabasco

It has it’s own plane. They always send 2 or more.


77 posted on 03/20/2013 9:04:31 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Those aren’t limos. Those are armored cars with nice paint jobs.


78 posted on 03/20/2013 9:05:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

How is that possible since the diesel hose won’t fit?


79 posted on 03/20/2013 9:06:01 AM PDT by bgill
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To: cuban leaf

Yes, a little diesel residue won’t hurt a gasoline engine at all.

In fact I’ve always been told a little shot of diesel is just a good engine lubricant. (I have a couple big outdoor fuel tanks, now filled with gasoline, but one was a diesel tank for 30 years).

You’d think they might have tried your method over in Israel rather than shipping a different car, for pete’s sake.


80 posted on 03/20/2013 9:07:12 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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