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Father charged in fatal shooting after Texas wreck (shot man who ran over his sons)
Charter ^ | nday, February 11, 2013 7:40 PM EST | JUAN A. LOZANO Associated Press

Posted on 02/12/2013 10:04:43 AM PST by Pan_Yan

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To: cuban leaf
Kinda reminds me of the movie, “Law Abiding Citizen”.

I'd suggest watching "Law Abiding Citizen" before trying to tie this incident with that movie. This incident and that movie are not even close.

61 posted on 02/12/2013 12:57:21 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

I’d suggest watching “Law Abiding Citizen” before trying to tie this incident with that movie. This incident and that movie are not even close.


You are correct. I worded that very poorly. I meant to say the thread TITLE reminded me of it. They are not similar at all.

BTW, I just watched it a week ago. It’s why it was even on my mind.


62 posted on 02/12/2013 1:02:43 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Can one be charged twice for the same crime? He was charged in one previous thread this morning!

Yes, unless he found innocent by a jury for the morning charge. You can only be tried once. They file, unfile and refile charges. But you can’t unfile your nails.


63 posted on 02/12/2013 1:06:19 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: WinMod70
Believe it or not running out gas could get you a fine in some areas.

Will it get you jail time, substantial fine and your vehicle impounded.

I wouldn't find it necessary to walk to my home to get a firearm. I carry.

If this incident goes to trial and is in fact as it has been presented on the internet, I believe a jury could find that the father was temporarily insane.

64 posted on 02/12/2013 1:18:29 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: cuban leaf
I'm not quite following how the title would remind you of that movie, but okay.

I've watched the movie several times. It's a really good movie, and I liked what Clyde Shelton did to the two thugs. I didn't much care for how he declared war against everyone else, though, I understood it.

65 posted on 02/12/2013 2:01:31 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Greysard

“This means that a good driver typically wouldn’t have the accident regardless of what is happening on the road.”

I generally agree with you. I guess my point is that even sober drivers have accidents.

The actual situation, if obstructed view etc., would temper my judgement in any case.

Hence, I’m not that quick to lambaste the subject of stories in the press, of all places, when the press gets so much wrong as a matter of course.

When I’ve read stories in the press on subjects that I’m actually privvy to, I see they ALWAYS get at least one thing wrong in the story.

In the case of this story, I’m more interested in pointing out the relevant facts not presented than defending either subject of the story.


66 posted on 02/12/2013 2:08:31 PM PST by fruser1
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To: 5thGenTexan

“How long is “temporary” to the law?”

Honestly, no clue but I doubt it will come into play here. I can understand having to charge him, we can’t allow official ‘vigilante justice.’ Jury nullification is another story.

Had it been my kids I truly would have gone insane. Permanently.


67 posted on 02/12/2013 3:18:11 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Alaska Wolf

I don’t doubt for a minute the guy came unglued, I would have. Suppose the other guy was talking on a cell phone, texting, f’en with the radio, or eating a sandwich, is the dad still justified in what he did? I’m not taking sides, just trying to see how this plays out and keep seeing jail for the dad on some type of manslaughter charge.


68 posted on 02/12/2013 3:42:44 PM PST by WinMod70
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To: WinMod70
Suppose the other guy was talking on a cell phone, texting, f’en with the radio, or eating a sandwich, is the dad still justified in what he did?

Justified? That's not relevant. The father after witnessing his two young sons being killed by a reckless individual understandably snapped. How many of us can state conclusively that in the same situation we wouldn't react as irrationally?

69 posted on 02/12/2013 4:05:42 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Texas Yellow Rose

Yep.


70 posted on 02/12/2013 4:09:35 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Alaska Wolf

It’s doubtful I’ll see any news on how this concludes, but I’m still thinking jail time. Also, I would not be surprised in the least if the dead drunk’s family lawyers up and comes after the guy.


71 posted on 02/12/2013 4:28:45 PM PST by WinMod70
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To: 5thGenTexan
Witnessing a drunk driver run over your two kids, killing them and finding him apparently “OK” could be a textbook scenario for a “crime of passion” or temporary insanity.

Or jury nullification.
Being a parent and a seldom user of alcohol, NEVER before driving, I know how I would vote!

72 posted on 02/12/2013 8:32:19 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Pan_Yan

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Tori Gauna

I’m tired of seeing “he deserved it” NO ONE deserves that to happen. Ppl acting like he was some horrible person out causing accidents all the time. Yes this shit was unfortunate , the whole damn story is SAD but instead of you all talking all this shit how bout yall pray for the families. It was an ACCIDENT!!!!!! Jr has family too!!!! Ppl make very STUPID decisions but he did NOT deserve to be killed. Neither did the boys. Ive prayed for both the families. I can’t imagine losing my boy like that it would drive me crazy & then I put myself in Jrs family shoes too.. your kid will do what he pleases EVEN if you teach them right , you just can’t control some things. Some folks need to really think about what they are saying , you’re kids aren’t perfect either .. who’s to say they don’t cause some kind of ACCIDENT later in life. Sounds bad but its TRUE. This world is really fucked up & bad things happen to good ppl. Ppl shouldn’t take matters into their own hands. God will judge every single one of us when it’s time. Had to get this off my chest.
R.I.P Caleb, David, & Jr.
11 hours ago via mobile
Xbox


73 posted on 02/12/2013 9:08:10 PM PST by kcvl
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To: cripplecreek

Justifiable Homicide 101:The concept of justifiable homicide in criminal law stands on the dividing line between an excuse, justification and an exculpation. It differs from other forms of homicide in that, due to certain circumstances, the homicide is justified as preventing greater harm to innocents. A homicide can only be justified if there is sufficient evidence to suggest that it was reasonable to believe that the offending party posed an imminent threat to the life or wellbeing of another.


74 posted on 02/13/2013 1:40:02 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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