Posted on 02/09/2013 3:09:51 PM PST by Libloather
Conceptually I agree, but I think any private sector business with similar (aggregate) productivity or with such budget pressures would act with much more urgency than to attrit 10% of its workforce out over 3-4 years. IMHO a 10% immediate cut and another 10% attrition seems more appropriate. If that were done I'd be fine with 2-3% annual increases for those who remain.
We could probably eliminate all corporate subsidies, almost all agricultural subsidies too.
Our public "servants" are NOT!
I've had more than enough of arrogance on the part of gov't folks beating on me.
This from a guy representing employees who are currently paid 40% more than in the public sector to do half the work.
“simply not enough.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A 10% nibble, guys? You can’t be serious? It took what, maybe a decade to double the fed workforce? Maybe two decades. We could easily lop off 50% and not miss a beat. With that many fewer people interfering with our markets and daily lives, everything would improve immensely.
You sack 10% and they’ll be back on the payroll as consultants the following Monday. You sack 50% and that’s much harder to make happen.
Yep, sneaky little buzzards can't keep their hands out of the honey pot (trillions of dollars)
Power, money and beautiful women can corrupt the best men...all three are ubiquitous in DC.
Please don't misread me, I fully agree with what you just wrote. I'd eliminate entire departments if given the chance, and private sector productivity would soar (I'm talking about you, EPA). But I don't think the public at large would ever get behind something like that. However I think if a serious campaign was mounted to eliminate 10% up front and another 10% via attrition that people would generally agree with the proposal.
often other peoples power, money and women!
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"List of agencies and units of agencies Agencies in bold text are LEAs (Law Enforcement Agencies)
Executive Branch Legislative Branch
Library of Congress, Office of Security and Emergency Preparedness (LOC) Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate United States Capitol Police (USCP) United States Government Printing Office Police Office of Inspector General, United States Government Printing Office
Judicial Branch
Marshal of the United States Supreme Court United States Supreme Court Police Administrative Office of the United States Courts, Office of Probation and Pretrial Services (AOUSC)
Other federal law enforcement agencies
Independent Agencies and Quasi-official Corporations Central Intelligence Agency Security Protective Service (CIASPS) United States Environmental Protection Agency Criminal Investigation Division (EPACID) Office of Inspector General (EPAOIG) National Aeronautics and Space Administration Office of Inspector General (NASAOIG) NASA Security Services Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Inspector General (NRCOIG) Office of Personnel Management, Office of Inspector General (OPMOIG) Railroad Retirement Board, Office of Inspector General (RRBOIG) Small Business Administration, Office of Inspector General (SBAOIG) Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General (FDICOIG) General Services Administration, Office of Inspector General (GSAOIG) Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General (SSAOIG) United States Postal Service (USPS) USPS Office of Inspector General (USPSOIG) United States Postal Inspection Service (USPIS) U.S. Postal Police Smithsonian Institution Office of Protection Services (SI) National Zoological Park Police (NZPP) Office of the Inspector General (OIG) Amtrak Amtrak Office of Inspector General Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations (OSSSO) Amtrak Police Federal Reserve Bank: Federal Reserve Police Tennessee Valley Authority Tennessee Valley Authority Office of Inspector General (TVAOIG) Tennessee Valley Authority Police (TVAP) United States Agency for International Development, Office of Inspector General (AIDOIG)
Statistics
In 2004, federal agencies employed approximately 105,000 full-time personnel authorized to make arrests and carry firearms in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. Compared with 2002, employment of such personnel increased by 13%. Nationwide, there were 36 federal officers per 100,000 residents. Outside the District of Columbia, which had 1,662 per 100,000, State ratios ranged from 90 per 100,000 in Arizona to 7 per 100,000 in Iowa. As of 2004, about 3 in 4 federal law enforcement officers working outside the Armed Forces were employed within the Department of Homeland Security or the Department of Justice. Federal officers’ duties included criminal investigation (38%), police response and patrol (21%), corrections and detention (16%), inspections (16%), court operations (5%), and security and protection (4%). Women accounted for 16% of federal officers in 2004, an increase from 14.8% in 2002. A third (33.2%) of federal officers were members of a racial or ethnic minority in 2004. This included 17.7% who were Hispanic or Latino, and 11.4% who were black or African American. In 2002, racial or ethnic minorities officers comprised 32.4% of federal officers. Twenty-seven federal offices of inspector general (IG) employed criminal investigators with arrest and firearm authority in 2004. Overall, these agencies employed 2,867 such officers in the 50 states and District of Columbia.[3] "
“List of agencies and units of agencies
Agencies in bold text are LEAs (Law Enforcement Agencies)
Executive Branch
Department of Agriculture (USDA)
Office of Inspector General (USDAOIG)
United States Forest Service (USFS)
U.S. Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations (USFSLEI)
Department of Commerce (DOC)
Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS)
Office of Export Enforcement (OEE)
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
National Institute of Standards and Technology Police (NIST Police)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries Office for Law Enforcement (OLE)
Department of Commerce Office of Security (DOCOS)
Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General (DOCOIG)
Department of Defense
Office of Inspector General (DODOIG)
Defense Criminal Investigative Service (DCIS)
Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA)
United States Pentagon Police (USPPD)
Department of Defense Police
Defense Logistics Agency Police (DLA)
National Security Agency Police (NSA)
Defense Intelligence Agency Police (DIA)
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Police (NGA)
Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR)
Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR)
Department of the Army
Counterintelligence activity (CI), United States Army Intelligence and Security Command
United States Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID)
United States Army Military Police Corps
Department of the Army Police
United States Army Corrections Command
Department of the Navy
Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS)
United States Marine Corps Criminal Investigation Division (MC CID)
Department of the Navy Police (civilian police)
Marine Corps Provost Marshal’s Office (military police)
United States Marine Corps Police (civilian police)
United States Naval Academy Police (civilian police)
Master-at-Arms (U.S. Navy military police)
Department of the Air Force
Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI)
Air Force Security Forces Center (AFSFC)
Department of the Air Force Police
Department of Education
Office of the Inspector General (EDOIG)
Department of Energy (DOE)
Office of Inspector General (DOEOIG)
Office of Health, Safety and Security (DOEHSS)
Office of Secure Transportation (OST)
Department of Health and Human Services
United States Food and Drug and Administration (HHSFDA)
Office of Criminal Investigations (OCI)
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
National Institutes of Health Police (NIH Police)
Office of Inspector General (HHSOIG)
Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
CBP Officers and Border Patrol Agents at a ceremony in 2007
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC)
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
United States Coast Guard (USCG)
Coast Guard Investigative Service (CGIS)
United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
Office of Air and Marine (OAM)
Office of Border Patrol (OBP)
Office of Field Operations (OFO)
Federal Protective Service (FPS)
United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
Enforcement Removal Operations (ERO)
Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)
Office of Intelligence
Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR)
United States Secret Service (USSS)
Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
Office of Law Enforcement/Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS)
Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General (DHSOIG)
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Office of Inspector General (HUD/OIG) [1]
Protective Service Division (HUDPSD)
Department of the Interior (USDI)
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)
Bureau of Indian Affairs Police (BIA Police)
Bureau of Land Management (BLM)
Bureau of Land Management Office of Law Enforcement (BLM Rangers and Special Agents)
Bureau of Reclamation (BOR)
Bureau of Reclamation Office of Law Enforcement (BOR Rangers)
Hoover Dam Police aka Bureau of Reclamation Police
National Park Service (NPS)
Division of Law Enforcement, Security and Emergency Services (U.S. Park Rangers-Law Enforcement)
United States Park Police
Office of Inspector General (DOIOIG)
Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE)
United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS)
Office of Law Enforcement
Division of Refuge Law Enforcement
Department of Justice (USDOJ)
Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)
United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) (since 1973)
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Federal Bureau of Investigation Police (FBI Police)
Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP)
Office of Inspector General (DOJOIG)
United States Marshals Service (USMS)
Department of Labor
Office of Inspector General (DOLOIG)
Department of State (DoS)
Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS)
U.S. Diplomatic Security Service (DSS)
Office of Foreign Missions
Office of the Inspector General of the Department of State
Department of Transportation
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
Office of Inspector General (DOTOIG)
United States Merchant Marine Academy Department of Public Safety (USMMADPS)
Office of Odometer Fraud Investigation - NHTSA (OFI)
Department of the Treasury
A Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police (BEP) patrol car.
Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP)
Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police (BEP Police)
Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN)
Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI)
Office of Inspector General (TREASOIG)
Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA)
United States Mint Police (USMP)
Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP)
Department of Veterans Affairs
Office of Inspector General (VAOIG)
Veterans Affairs Police
Legislative Branch
Library of Congress, Office of Security and Emergency Preparedness (LOC)
Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives
Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate
United States Capitol Police (USCP)
United States Government Printing Office Police
Office of Inspector General, United States Government Printing Office
Judicial Branch
Marshal of the United States Supreme Court
United States Supreme Court Police
Administrative Office of the United States Courts, Office of Probation and Pretrial Services (AOUSC)
Other federal law enforcement agencies
Independent Agencies and Quasi-official Corporations
Central Intelligence Agency Security Protective Service (CIASPS)
United States Environmental Protection Agency
Criminal Investigation Division (EPACID)
Office of Inspector General (EPAOIG)
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Office of Inspector General (NASAOIG)
NASA Security Services
Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Inspector General (NRCOIG)
Office of Personnel Management, Office of Inspector General (OPMOIG)
Railroad Retirement Board, Office of Inspector General (RRBOIG)
Small Business Administration, Office of Inspector General (SBAOIG)
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General (FDICOIG)
General Services Administration, Office of Inspector General (GSAOIG)
Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General (SSAOIG)
United States Postal Service (USPS)
USPS Office of Inspector General (USPSOIG)
United States Postal Inspection Service (USPIS)
U.S. Postal Police
Smithsonian Institution
Office of Protection Services (SI)
National Zoological Park Police (NZPP)
Office of the Inspector General (OIG)
Amtrak
Amtrak Office of Inspector General
Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations (OSSSO)
Amtrak Police
Federal Reserve Bank: Federal Reserve Police
Tennessee Valley Authority
Tennessee Valley Authority Office of Inspector General (TVAOIG)
Tennessee Valley Authority Police (TVAP)
United States Agency for International Development, Office of Inspector General (AIDOIG)
Statistics
In 2004, federal agencies employed approximately 105,000 full-time personnel authorized to make arrests and carry firearms in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. Compared with 2002, employment of such personnel increased by 13%.
Nationwide, there were 36 federal officers per 100,000 residents. Outside the District of Columbia, which had 1,662 per 100,000, State ratios ranged from 90 per 100,000 in Arizona to 7 per 100,000 in Iowa.
As of 2004, about 3 in 4 federal law enforcement officers working outside the Armed Forces were employed within the Department of Homeland Security or the Department of Justice.
Federal officers’ duties included criminal investigation (38%), police response and patrol (21%), corrections and detention (16%), inspections (16%), court operations (5%), and security and protection (4%).
Women accounted for 16% of federal officers in 2004, an increase from 14.8% in 2002.
A third (33.2%) of federal officers were members of a racial or ethnic minority in 2004. This included 17.7% who were Hispanic or Latino, and 11.4% who were black or African American. In 2002, racial or ethnic minorities officers comprised 32.4% of federal officers.
Twenty-seven federal offices of inspector general (IG) employed criminal investigators with arrest and firearm authority in 2004. Overall, these agencies employed 2,867 such officers in the 50 states and District of Columbia.[3]
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Actually, I'm glad you brought that up as I notice those terms get interchanged for what ever purpose it serves at the time (not by you but by hacks promoting a given agenda)
My understanding is that subsidies can be tax deductions for business, tax breaks designed to give incentives to businesses to invest, monies given to certain industries not to produce to keep prices up (Jane Fonda's ex, sugar, corn, etc)
I really need to study this more as it seems to be a term that has several meanings.
In the end, I believe a flat tax is the way to go, no Corporate or business tax either as the consumer pays for it in the end anyway.
Just sayin’.
How about the GOP offer a welfare reform plan to merge 50 or so different programs (free phones, food stamps, AFDC. WIC et al) into a monthly cash dole, thereby eliminating all the duplicate bureaucracy from them and stuff. It could increase benefits a bit and still save dozens of billions of dollars a year.
Call it the Cash Welfare Increase Act, lol
I agree. But the actual handouts like GM, Fisker, Solyndra and stuff need to be abolished
Are GS-4’s among the illegals?
Well Boy’s—admittedly it aint much of a raise, but remember, you have a job and 1 out of 4 in this country do not.
Would be a worthwhile exercise simply to bring transparency to the sum total outlay of all those programs. (I also wouldn't mind a proposal to have the recipients wear a giant scarlet letter at all times.)
Like those folks who worked hard at Waco and Ruby Ridge?
At the EPA finding that CO2 is an endangerment?
That there are (private) financial organizations that are too big to fail (AIG, multiple venture capitalists)?
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