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Chris Kyle, record-holding sniper as Navy SEAL, killed in double slaying at Erath County gun range
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| 03 February 2013
| TASHA TSIAPERAS
Posted on 02/03/2013 5:30:27 AM PST by JoeProBono
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Eddie Routh
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posted on
02/03/2013 5:33:09 AM PST
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
To: JoeProBono
Trophy killing? Most lethal sniper in the History of the US and a famous SEAL, at that.
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posted on
02/03/2013 5:38:20 AM PST
by
submarinerswife
(Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
To: JoeProBono
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posted on
02/03/2013 5:39:59 AM PST
by
nuconvert
( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
To: submarinerswife
RIP, brave American warrior. What I say next should not be taken as a joke or disrespectful:
He forgot the (other) Golden Rule, Be professional and courteous with everyone you meet and have a plan to kill them, if necessary.
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posted on
02/03/2013 5:44:19 AM PST
by
Feckless
(I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
To: JoeProBono
Registered democrate, might he be?
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posted on
02/03/2013 5:55:45 AM PST
by
ronnie raygun
( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
To: JoeProBono
It is time for public hangings to return.
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:07:09 AM PST
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: Feckless
Saw one report that they were both shot in the back. Another that the neighbor guy was shot 1st and Kyle went to help him.
Certainly doesn’t seem they were cautious enough when they decided to hand a gun to a guy who has PTSD.
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:07:21 AM PST
by
nuconvert
( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
To: JoeProBono
Ecclesiastes 9:11 I again saw under the sun that the race is not to the swift, and the battle is not to the warriors, and neither is bread to the wise, nor wealth to the discerning, nor favor to men of ability; for time and chance overtake them all.
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:16:56 AM PST
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: JoeProBono
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:22:52 AM PST
by
deport
To: JoeProBono
Kyle has a large bounty on his head form several groups I suspect. I suspected ROP at first.
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:27:00 AM PST
by
mountainlion
(Live well for those that did not make it back.)
To: deport
snip
In all, he was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor and two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals.
I dont care about the medals, Kyle told the Star-Telegram in a 2012 interview. I didnt do it for the money or the awards. I did it because I felt like it was something that needed to be done and it was honorable. I loved the guys.
A member of SEAL Team 3, Kyle picked off his targets from rooftops or windows of abandoned buildings during the 2003 war against Iraq, which toppled the Saddam Hussein regime. Primarily serving as a sniper and wounded twice, he provided overwatch protection for Marines and other U.S. troops and earned a reputation for his proficiency.
Most shots ranged from 200 to 1,200 yards. His longest, most remarkable kill from 1.2 miles away took out an insurgent aiming a rocket launcher at an approaching Army convoy.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/02/4595767/top-navy-seal-sniper-killed-on.html#storylink=cpy
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:31:47 AM PST
by
deport
To: JoeProBono
Ease up on those hammers. The great odds are that this is a real PTSD mental illness deal.
I suspect the shooter went “temporarily insane”, shot the two men, and fled in his pickup. According to the stories, he offered no resistance to the police. He may or may not have even realized what he did. Just thought he was pulled over for some traffic violation.
To start with, he needs to have his head candled by a very competent psychiatrist, if for no other reason than to find out “how bad is ‘bad’?” This will not be easy, because often after a blow up like this the person will revert to normal behavior, even more normal than usual. But it is just a mask.
He has likely been such a severe case that he is showing physical, not just psychological, symptoms.
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What is happening in todays military?
The men who returned from WW2 did not have the problems these guys are having.
Was it because they were allowed to fight back and not hampered with Rules of Engagement?
They fought to win. Is that the problem> We have’t really fought to win since WW2.
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posted on
02/03/2013 6:54:56 AM PST
by
Venturer
To: Venturer
There were indeed people with PTSD after WW2. Many who were unable to function in society for years...even a few who snapped and killed people. I think the difference is that it wasn’t an “unpopular war” in people’s minds, so the media didn’t make a big deal out of it...and when veterans did snap and kill people it was treated as local news, without the if-it-bleeds-it-leads sensationalism we’ve been seeing since Vietnam.
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posted on
02/03/2013 7:06:08 AM PST
by
M1903A1
("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
To: M1903A1
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posted on
02/03/2013 7:08:10 AM PST
by
Venturer
To: Venturer
It has nothing to do with the ROE.
Back in the '30's when our WWII vets were being raised, Jesus Christ was taught at home and school. These boys grew into men having a strong relationship with their Savior. When confronting evil, they had the power of The Spirit. So, the things they saw and had to do for their country could be coped with easier because they had The Great Comforter.
I personally don't believe in any mental illness. I think we let demons in by keeping God out. And since we as a nation, shun God, we see more of the works of the Prince of Lies.
To: Venturer
The men who returned from WW2 did not have the problems these guys are having.
BS. Every GI who goes into combat in any war gets PTSD to one degree or another. It's how they choose to deal with it (public and private) that makes the difference.
Quite frankly, I'm sick of hearing how tough the Iraq and Afghanistan vets have (or had) it. Many have hooches with AC, refrigerators, Internet access, satellite phones, three squares a day, etc.
No war is easy, but to say these vets had it worse than those who came before them, is just not true.
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posted on
02/03/2013 8:10:10 AM PST
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: JoeProBono
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posted on
02/03/2013 9:07:33 AM PST
by
The Mayor
("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
To: oh8eleven
Read Steven Ambrose' book, Citizen Soldiers, about the troops that served from June 7th, 1944, until May of 1945 in the battles of France, Maginot line, Hurtgen Forest, Battle of the Bulge, Falaise Pocket, Remagen Bridge and others. There were entire units that were sent to the rear for battle fatigue where the men couldn't even function. The conditions and terror these men went through were horrific. These men suffered high rates of depression and battle fatigue and came home with significant PTSD except it wasn't called that then.
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