Posted on 02/02/2013 3:53:56 PM PST by NYer
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Life In Progressivetown
Its all about freedom of association. If the Boy Scouts allow gay men to be troop leaders, say whatever you like, but my son will not participate. One day America will come to realize that political correctness is simply self deception. When a nation seeks to make “politically correctness” the norm in law and private behavior , it is clearly in decline.
I will be a new BSA contributor if it stands it ground.
its ground.
Our Council’s training is clear: If the Youth does not affirm a belief in God, you are to terminate the Board of Review and call the council executive.
We self-charter as a unit, and will determine whether to disband or effectively go off-grid with our unit and our money.
It’s all about the destruction of an institution they find insulting - but could care less that we find homosexual unnatural and against God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit...if they cave in and change this - might as well dissolve the BSA at once. If one cannot have a solid traditional organization to where young boys are taught the value of service to ones nation and God - then forget...
I remember under Clinton don’t ask - don’t tell - escorting a soldier through processing OUT of the army to the point I was ordered by the commander to watch the freaking jet take off...but they allow it.
It serves no purpose and is yet one more move on a multiple level to tear down traditions that made the US great in the first place — see how well they fair under Islam...then again, weren’t most of the Nazi’s and their elite gay?
Someone posted a link to the Pink Swastika
http://www.thepinkswastika.com/
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
We all know how that worked out for the world...
Have these Scouting proponents and supporters of the homosexual agenda not learned anything from the experience of the Catholic Church? The church likes to claim it is primarily a pedophilia problem, not a homosexual problem....nonsense. Look at the ratio of boy victims vs girl victims. The priesthood did not openly accept homosexuals....think how big their problem would have been had they been open.
Lets take it even further. Women can be boy scout troop leaders, and men can be girl scout troop leaders. Can’t have any type of discrimination! sarc/
Eagle Scout, Order of the Arrow; my father was too, and he was also a scoutmaster. I worked six summers on the staff of a large scout camp complex when young, and I saw firsthand, and repeatedly, the traumatic pederasty that homosexual predators perpetrated upon innocent boys and young men. As a mental health professional now for a quarter century, I see the lasting aftermath of such abuses as well.
I wrote to these spineless clowns at the BSA the other day and told them so, although I am not so naive as to think it will have an impact on their decision. People drawn to positions of power within such organizations are, as we have seen repeatedly, highly susceptible to the tactics used in The Long March Through the Institutions pushed by the Marxists who seek to undermine this nation.
The simple, and yet complete, answer, BTW, for anyone wondering why homosexuals would be motivated to become adult or older peer leaders in the Scouts - besides the general Leftist wish to corrupt every last bastion of previously conservative cultural authority - is summed up in Willie Sutton’s famous reason for robbing banks, or in the simple concept of a “target-rich environment”. It’s never any more complicated than that.
If the BSA surrenders, they deserve to go broke and dissolve.
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I am an Eagle Scout, class of 1968. After 40 years of not participating in Scouting activities, last November I offered my services as a merit badge counselor to the local council for the first time. If the BSA changes its position on this issue, it will become the last time. Boy Scouts are pubescent and post-pubescent; most of them are already men physically. I would not want a heterosexual male camping with my teenage daughter; I will not support a homosexual male camping with teenage sons.
I mentioned I was Eagle Scout, class of ‘68, but your message reminded me, I was also Brotherhood Order of the Arrow, senior patrol leader for troop 33, Yokosuka Naval Base Japan, and founding member of the first troop, on the naval base, of what was then called Explorers, now called Venturers.
There are only two ways this will end, neither of them good: the BSA will become a shill for postmodern relativism, and the organization will become increasingly irrelevant, shrinking in membership just as similar organizations have (cf. “liberal Christian” denominations).
Just wow. One of the best lines I've read which captures it all. The folks in this country under 50 years old just don't get it. Membership in BSA has been on a negative slope since 1970 - same for U.S. church attendance.
1/10/1963 U.S. Representative Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read into the Congressional Record the list of 45 communist goals (Appendix, pp. A34-A35) from Cleon Skousens 1958 book, The Naked Communist.
#13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
#15. Capture 1 or both of the political parties in the United States.
#16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
#17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
#20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
#21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
#25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
#26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
#28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
#29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
#30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
#32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
#40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
#41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
Rest assured, if the BSA caves to the homo agenda, the BSA will lose the majority of it’s membership.
Why don’t they just start the FSA and be done with it. Freedom of Association indeed covers this.
The first phase in achieving "cultural hegemony" over a nation is the undermining of all elements of traditional culture. Churches are thus transformed into ideology-driven political clubs, with the stress on "social justice" and egalitarianism, with worship reduced to trivialized entertainment, and with age-old doctrinal and moral teachings "modernized" or diminished to the point of irrelevancy. Genuine education is replaced by "dumbed down" and "politically correct" curricula, and standards are reduced dramatically. The mass media are fashioned into instruments for mass manipulation and for harassing and discrediting traditional institutions and their spokesmen. Morality, decency, and old virtues are ridiculed without respite. Tradition-minded clergymen are portrayed as hypocrites and virtuous men and women as prudish, stuffy, and unenlightened.
Stunning! Would appreciate a link to your source, as well. Thank you!
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