Posted on 01/31/2013 1:04:18 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
However, if all the Midwesterners who make up the majority in Northern Virginia moved away the rest of the state would turn into the world's 5th largest outdoor slum since nobody would be paying taxes for anything.
Now you wouldn't want that would you?
Soon as McDonnell is out of office the secret underground on the Beltway is going to begin blowing the accesses so we get our HOV lanes back!
LOL!
I bet you think your gibberish deserves a reply.
Series. It's systemic error is HUGH!
I know whereof I speak, here, as I regularly endure the hellish, crawling, bumper to bumper traffic on the Greenway.
and Petersburg is NOT southeast of Suffolk. They can’t even get basic geography straight. How on earth can even claim to be a credible news source.
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What are you talking about. Most of the residence of Northern Virgina are either fed servants, gov contractors, or lobbyist. Removing them would only help!
Fairfax has about 180,000 lawyers though ~ but there's a large federal court establishment in the DC area including a number of specialty courts.
The largest single identifiable industry group around here is a nebulous structure of NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, and most of their employees are involved in printing and mailing.
There are, of course, lobbyists ~ but they are not as massive a body as you might imagine.
Many people imagine that DC is a concentration of federal employment, but it's really not ~ sure we have the headquarters elements of the major bureaucracies around here but CONGRESS makes sure the overwhelming majority of federal jobs get distributed to districts all over the country.
You remember it correctly. But the fight was extensive and the state had to threaten the DFW toll authority with a suit before they finally abandoned the tollway. I was living in the area at the time.
However, the DFW tollway is the exception, not the rule. For the rule, look at the Dallas North tollway which has been around since Jesus was in elementary school and has little likelihood of EVER going bye-bye.
You all remember when Obama said the business people didn't build the roads they use, right? He was totally wrong ~ might be the case that the federal government built the roads in Hawaii, but private interests built virtually all the early roads in the Midwest ~ the government had nothing to do with it.
A concept called 'demurrage' is commonly understood as an extra fee for detaining a box car on a rail siding ~ but it's more easily understood as a toll for directing a box car from it's normal regulated freight track to a privately owned siding. Just in case someone is going to tell me the railroads don't charge tolls ~ but, of course they do.
Toll roads ~ steel, corduroy, brick and gravel BUILT AMERICA, and for the most part, most of the toll roads were paid for.
The existing road is 4 lanes, but it is not divided. Makes no difference in the argument, just making the correction. Other than the 3 towns it goes through (Ivor, Wakefield, and Waverly), which are 1-2 stop light twons, it is 55 MPH throughout the 55 mile stretch and there are no current traffic congestion issues. The road isn’t needed. I drive the section from Ivor to Petersburg often as I live in Newport News and have family near Petersburg. It will be a cold day in hell before I take the toll road.
There’s gotta’ be a reason why it is so lightly used ~ the alternative is just nasty all the time. So, what is it ~ the way it hooks up perhaps? Or, is there a chance of getting shot.(NOTE: i did a Google Earth look at the roadway ~ there’s plenty of it DIVIDED ~ not the whole thing, but take a good look sometime ~ there have been improvements.
It is lightly used because:
1. It is 20 miles in each direction out of the way from Virginia Beach.
2. It really isn’t much better than the alternative. The alternative involves the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel. With 460 you can pick your poison with the Downtown Tunnel and the High Rise Bridge, both equally as time consuming as the HRBT.
3. Adding a toll road isn’t going to make it any more palatable.
4. The true pusher of this road is the Port of Virginia. It is not really designed to relieve congestion, it is designed for developers like everything else. If they really wanted to relieve congetion, they would sink a tunnel and provide rail/highway service betweeen Downtown Newport News and the Norfolk Naval Base with a spur into Portsmouth, but since all those areas are already developed, the business lobby isn’t interested.
One of the worst mistakes ever made was turning down the offer made by the trucking industry to purchase Shirley highway. We really needed a roadway to separate the trucks from the cars ~ and now we have a mixed use roadway that moves as fast as the heaviest most underpowered truck at rush hour.
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