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Assembly Democrat wants grocery store ban on plastic bags [California]
Sacramento Bee ^ | Tuesday, January 22, 2013 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 01/22/2013 10:27:56 PM PST by Lonely Bull

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To: Lonely Bull

This from the idiots on the left that FORCED the use of plastic when they wanted a ban on paper.

After they ban plastic and demand reusable cloth bags, they’ll want to ban those for something else.

It’s never about the reason with the left, it’s the “cause” and the mechanism of agitation.

F them all.


21 posted on 01/22/2013 11:16:20 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Dang, I just made the same comment...I need to read beyond the first post before I make mine! lol


22 posted on 01/22/2013 11:17:33 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: cherry

[Those plastic bags used today are so thin and cheap....there can’t be much waste there...]

Some of the manufacturers of these bags now add food starch to the plastic. This causes the bag to break down quickly when exposed to the elements.


23 posted on 01/22/2013 11:21:57 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Minutemen

“You can actually re-use existing plastic bags!”
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Of course...I have never thrown a plastic bag into the trash
unless it is too foul or broken to be reused.


24 posted on 01/22/2013 11:25:10 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Minutemen

“You can actually re-use existing plastic bags!”

I use those plastic bags for garbage too! From bringing lunch to storing stuff in the office. These liberal morons really need a kick in the face.


25 posted on 01/22/2013 11:28:45 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Only after I pick up my dogs crap. That is called triple use.
26 posted on 01/22/2013 11:42:42 PM PST by Domangart
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You’ll notice that the meat section and produce section of the stores still offer (flimsy, on a roll) plastic bags.


27 posted on 01/22/2013 11:44:05 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Lonely Bull

We use them for cat litter and lining trash cans so I’ll just buy a few cases of 1,000 before they outlaw them!


28 posted on 01/22/2013 11:56:36 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

i’ve been picking up cloth ones at car shows, Hagarty Ins, hands them out at all the big car shows.


29 posted on 01/23/2013 12:05:55 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Lonely Bull

Let’s have a ban on Assembly Democrats.


30 posted on 01/23/2013 1:46:47 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Casie
raised “free-range”...

Observing the ramifications of free-range 'Rats, I'm inclined to keep the 'Rats that propose this stuff in tight-quartered cages.

31 posted on 01/23/2013 3:03:26 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Lonely Bull

You can buy them in bulk (1000) at Sam’s and carry a few as you go shopping. Have a few extra in case you see someone that could use one or two. It would be easier and cheaper than using whatever product is being touted, and whenever it gets lost, soiled, or damaged you won’t suffer from its loss.

Imagine thousands of people complying with that silly law by carrying the very product that is being “banned”.


32 posted on 01/23/2013 3:10:17 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: oldbrowser
We have a troop of minutiae rangers running California

I thought they were mostly rump rangers.

33 posted on 01/23/2013 4:46:43 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"The reason we have plastic bags in the first place is because of liberal enviro-extremism. Years ago, grocery stores and other retailers used paper bags."

While it is true that groceries/retailers used paper, that is because it was the only option available. I was getting my PhD in chemistry just as the "environmental movement" was starting out, and I cannot recall any such "eco-push" to replace paper with plastic at that time or later. As I was working in an industry that produced the feedstock for plastic bags (and much else), I'm sure I would have noted such.

Plastic replaced paper because it was simply superior in performance (as it remains). And it was (and remains) more ecologically acceptable than paper because it takes less energy to produce, requires less material to properly function, and puts less waste in landfills.

Way back in those days, there was a journal startup called "Garbage", whose purpose was to literally examine the science of garbage...what comprised it, the impact of those inputs on the environment, how to dispose of them safely, etc. Articles therein examined the eco-impact of "paper vs plastic" and plastic came off the winner by far. Unfortunately for "Garbage", the science they found didn't match the eco-propaganda memes, and the journal folded.

34 posted on 01/23/2013 4:57:57 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Lonely Bull

I don’t like plastic bags. The groceries fall out all over the trunk floor, sometimes spilling their contents (Windex). The bags blow into my yard, on the streets & parks, & they are a hazard for animals & fish. Plastic grocery bags suck!

Paper bags were so much better. They stand in the trunk, as do the items they contain - no spills. There are a hundred things you can do with a (free) paper bag! They make great luggage in a pinch. They melt in the environment. They are made from a renewable resource. Water is their only enemy, yet including a little wax on the bag, as paper cups do, could solve that problem.

Regardless, I do not favor a ban on plastic bags. Reliance on reusable bags will end up making a lot of people sick from contaminated bags, justifying more packaging on individual grocery items, using even more plastic to seal the packages. Packaging is already a nightmare - we don’t need more!

Paper bags are the solution, IMO.


35 posted on 01/23/2013 5:21:26 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Minutemen

“You can actually re-use existing plastic bags”

Yes, and I reuse mine. After bringing home the bacon in them, I then fill them with trash, and carry them to my burning place. This is also a way to keep them from filling landfills.


36 posted on 01/23/2013 5:30:00 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Lonely Bull

We’ve got way too many politicians in this country.


37 posted on 01/23/2013 5:55:33 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If it saves just one senior citizen's life, the fight against ObamaCare will have been worth it.)
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To: Minutemen

You can actually re-use existing plastic bags!


They’re highly efficient. For storage, many bags can be stuffed into a small, stiff cardboard box (oatmeal container works well) and easily retrieved for use.

My grandmother actually braided the things into strips, which she then formed into small throw rugs!


38 posted on 01/23/2013 6:10:51 AM PST by VAarea
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To: Lonely Bull

Dang, usually the Austin hippies follows Kaleefornika, but they beat them on this one. No single use plastic bags will be available there after Feb 2013.


Following a three hour discussion on the issue, the Austin City Council voted unanimously Thursday to pass the bag ban ordinance.

Retail stores will not be able to offer single-use plastic or paper bags at check out beginning in March of 2013. Shoppers will be required to bring a reusable bag.

The city is expected to spend up to $2 million to educate residents about the change.


http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/blog/morning_call/2012/03/austin-passes-plastic-bag-ban.html


39 posted on 01/23/2013 6:17:26 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Lonely Bull

What am I going to carry my ammo out of the store in?


40 posted on 01/23/2013 6:21:52 AM PST by artichokegrower
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