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NBC/WSJ poll: For first time, majority thinks abortion should be legal in all or most cases
Hotair ^ | 01/22/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“A stranger in a post-Christian land.

C.S. Lewis said that neo-paganism in the West will be worse than ancient paganism, because we will have rejected Christ.

It’s a sobering thought. Personally, I’m amazed by God’s patience.”

You also have to remember, the democrats openly booed God at their convention, AND THEY STILL WON.


121 posted on 01/24/2013 9:12:58 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Romney lost the federal election because he is a liberal and to much like obama.
States win/lose their own elections.
Congressmen win/lose their own elections.


122 posted on 01/24/2013 9:13:26 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, the majority (if this poll is to be believed) believe that murder is OK prior to birth. What about after birth? Is it OK to kill for convenience after birth too?


123 posted on 01/24/2013 9:15:29 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Do you really think it's "factually correct" that women don't get pregnant from "bona fide" rape?

Yes, it *is* factually correct that it is extremely rare for women to get pregnant from forced rape.

In Indiana, candidate Mourdock claimed that it was God's will when women got pregnant from the act of rape; probably the media's fault that anyone was offended by that comment too.

I am not familiar with Mourdock. However, I will venture a guess based on my familiarity with media tactics. He probably said something along the lines of every child being a gift of God, and the media spun that to give people the impression that he said that it is God's will for every woman to be raped until she becomes pregnant.

These guys were not the innocent victims of some wholly unforeseeable conspiracy of the Bilderburger media cabal. They were, instead, breathtakingly unprepared for big time politics and showed it badly at their public debates.

They were, to a large extent, victims of the mass media. There isn't a person alive who can say exactly the right thing at the right time, and the media demands superhuman powers of communication from conservatives. In contrast, they don't even care if liberals speak incoherently and make statements of profound idiocy. People should be elected on their ideas, even if they can't express them perfectly.

I had the unpleasant experience of listening to the whole Mourdock - Donnelly debate; Mourdock was rude, ill prepared and inarticulate throughout the entire evening.

Being rude and ill-prepared is a different matter. There is no excuse to be rude, and people should be aware of the issues before entering a debate. If they know their stuff, that should come through even if they don't have the oratorical powers of Rush. We conservatives should not allow the media to get away with sliming other conservatives just because they misspeak.

124 posted on 01/24/2013 4:23:13 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pure manipulation.


125 posted on 01/24/2013 4:34:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“True law is right reason in agreement with nature; it is of universal application, unchanging and everlasting; it summons to duty by its commands, and averts from wrong-doing by its prohibitions. And it does not lay its commands or prohibitions upon good men in vain, although neither have any effect on the wicked. It is a sin to try to alter this law, nor is it allowable to attempt to repeal a part of it, and it is impossible to abolish it entirely. We cannot be freed from its obligations by Senate or People, and we need not look outside ourselves for an expounder or interpreter of it. And there will not be different laws at Rome and at Athens, or different laws now and in the future, but one eternal and unchangeable law will be valid for all nations and all times, and there will be one master and ruler, that is, God, over us all, for He is the author of this law, its promulgator, and its enforcing judge. Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature, and by reason of this very fact he will suffer the worst penalties, even if he escapes what is commonly called punishment ...”

— Marcus Tullius Cicero, 59 - 47 B.C.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2013/01/god-is-the-master-ruler-and-author.html


126 posted on 01/24/2013 4:39:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sun beam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.”

— Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2012/05/alexander-hamilton-the-sacred-rights-of-mankind.html


127 posted on 01/24/2013 4:40:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Government, in my humble opinion, should be formed to secure and to enlarge the exercise of natural rights of its members, and every government, which has not this in view, as its principle object, is not a government of the legitimate kind.”

— James Wilson

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2013/01/not-a-government-of-the-legitimate-kind.html


128 posted on 01/24/2013 4:42:07 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Human law is law only by virtue of its accordance with right reason; and thus it is manifest that it flows from the eternal law. And in so far as it deviates from right reason it is called an unjust law; in such case it is no law at all, but rather a species of violence.”

— Thomas Aquinas, Summa theologiae, Ia-Ilae, q. xciii, art. 3, ad 2m.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2012/11/thomas-aquinas-unjust-law-is-no-law-at-all.html


129 posted on 01/24/2013 4:43:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: brownsfan

“This natural law, being as old as mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, from this original.”

— William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Law of England (1765)

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2012/04/william-blackstone-the-natural-law-is-superior-in-obligation-to-any-other.html


130 posted on 01/24/2013 4:44:07 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“[A]ll men are equally bound by the laws of nature, or to speak more properly, the laws of the Creator.”

— Samuel Adams

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2012/02/samuel-adams-we-are-all-bound-by-the-laws-of-the-creator.html


131 posted on 01/24/2013 4:45:09 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.”

— George Washington, 1789

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2012/02/george-washington-the-eternal-rules-of-order-and-right.html


132 posted on 01/24/2013 4:46:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature.”

— Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists, The Report of the Committee of Correspondence to the Boston Town Meeting, Nov. 20, 1772

http://www.selfgovernment.us/10/post/2012/01/samuel-adams-the-duty-of-self-preservation-the-first-law-of-nature.html


133 posted on 01/24/2013 4:47:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind
thinks abortion should be legal

"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was 'illegal.'..."

-- Martin Luther King, Jr., Letter from a Birmingham Jail


134 posted on 01/24/2013 4:51:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

The results of this poll are counter to most recent polls and national trends.

When you consider the source, you realize it is a media increasingly infatuated with the role given to them to help shape, rather than to report, the national conscience.

Young people have been increasingly pro-life for the last fifteen years, so there is hope. The old hags of the 1970s/1980s feminist movement are dying off.

Love and support of unlimited abortion is corrosive to the national fabric, because if the most innocent are unprotected, the rest of us are in jeopardy.

We will never be wrong by standing for what is right.

The long term trends are in our favor. We have to help our country survive the Obama years, because when America’s light goes out, it will not be relit.

Keep the faith, and keep standing for truth.


135 posted on 01/24/2013 5:08:23 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SeekAndFind

100% of us are destined for hell because of this.

We oppose it yet, fund it.


136 posted on 01/24/2013 8:45:49 PM PST by NoLibZone (It's time folks. It's time. Posting aint gonna cut it.)
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