Posted on 01/17/2013 2:16:28 AM PST by Kaslin
It is important to note that Atlanta had been burned by Hood before Sherman got there. Sherman cut off the railroad routes, and in a fit of temper, Hood set fire to his train which fire spread. The Union soldiers entering the city had as their first task, to put out the fires set by the Confederates.
Yes, he did one thing and said another.
That is why his two post war books should be classified as fiction - alternative history.
The destruction of Columbia, South Carolina by Sherman's troops is a prime example of Sherman looking the other way while his troops looted and burned wholesale. For information about what went on in Columbia, I suggest that you start at the following link to post 147 and subsequent posts all the way to post 229.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2559536/posts?page=147#147
Sherman later testified the following about his actions at Columbia (documented in Post 169 of the thread I just linked to):
Q. -- You testified, a little while ago, that it was very likely they [Sherman's own men] might burn Columbia, and you permitted them, or your officers did -- permitted them to go about the town?
A. -- I could have had them stay in the ranks, but I would not have done it, under the circumstances, to save Columbia.
Q. -- Although you knew they were likely to burn Columbia, you would not restrain them to their ranks, even to save it?
A. -- No, Sir. I would not have done such harshness to my soldiers to save the whole town. They were men, and I was not going to treat them like slaves.
Words fail me.
Once Sherman's troops got to North Carolina, the order apparently went out to reduce the amount of burning and looting, orders Sherman could have issued at Columbia.
lentulusgracchus posted about the demonization of the South by the liberal media as a way of splitting the Republican Party years ago in these threads and had noted the New York Times article that Rush cited. Rush is just slower to catch on than lg.
Too bad he is so delusional about any such demonization at FreeRepublic.
rockrr, when I look up bigotry in the dictionary it has your picture. Go figure.
“Except that Lee was a slave owner, and a person who served as slave overseer for a slave plantation.”
Let’s see... Lee was a professional soldier right up to the end of the Civil War. But you manage to have him being an overseer for a slave plantation. There is no twisting of history too bizarre for you, is there donny boy?
Self reflection is lost on you, my neo-yankee South-hating friend.
You should try celebrating your own heritage instead of spending your time expressing the hatred that you so lovingly cultivate. But then I suppose you’d have to have a heritage worth celebrating.
Funny how little time our post-modern neo-yankees spend on their own business. They appear to be little more than shriveled souls who can only make themselves feel better by tearing down others. But we’ve all seen that in action, it’s not news.
“William Barksdale was my wifes great great uncle.
His sister Virginia Barksdale Wade was her great great gandma and the wife of State Senator Levi Wade”
Well, that explains one male offspring’s name. ;o)
“Ironically...all of the descendents I know today are Republicans...it would be hard to explain to them if you could today how the parties have sorta switched as to who is now the progressive.”
Profound! Thanks for writing what I’ve been perplexed as to how to communicate.
Let me help remind you. He took a leave of absence to settle his father in law’s estate.
To do that he had to work the slaves to pay off debts.
Accordingly as executor he installed himself as overseer, put the slaves to work on the plantation, as well as renting them out.
Ring any bells yet?
The more-resolving telescope is supplied by RiNO/Neocon contributing editor of the Weekly Standard Christopher Caldwell, who has discussed this memetic warfare extensively, particularly in a series of articles, speeches, and reviews that he wrote between 1996 and about 2003. In 1996 he wrote in The Atlantic Monthly (alias The Atlantic) an article entitled "The Southern Captivity of the GOP". You can metasearch his name and find most of these articles and speeches.
In the article, hereafter SCGOP for short, he listed all the unfavorable images of the South (some of them imaginary and actually libelous) that Clintonoid propagandists, sometimes called "journalists", were propagating in an attempt to drive Western and Midwestern moderates and conservatives away from knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, Southerners who, as everybody knows, secretly eat Negro babies and hang black men from trees on Saturday night and set them on fire as a form of community entertainment, like the Romans' noxii ad bestias in the amphitheaters of the Empire.
The period 1990-present has represented a crescendo of this kind of political lying, as the Alinskyites labor to break the United States to the wheel of Marxism-Leninism by turning against one another everyone who isn't a Marxist.
It remains to comment that Caldwell was offering in gross another example of what Rush was commenting on, about the eagerness of RiNO's to throw "problem" people (people and groups that are being attacked by Media Mau-Maus) out of the lifeboat and under the bus -- to mix metaphors in a higher cause. This was what Caldwell was arguing about Southern conservatives, who practically singlehandedly had recaptured the Speakership and the leadership of the Senate for the GOP less than two years before after 40 years of wandering in the desert, that the RiNOate illuminati should bend every fiber to minimize and eliminate the obsecrate Southern Menace to the good name and electability of the GOP.
What Caldwell does not fess up to, is that East Coast RiNO's and Neocons have their own strong distaste for Southerners (and social conservatives generally, and their issues), and the "they're going to cost us offices! we'll lose our majorities!" meme was really cover for a different meme: "I hate these g***amn cracker-publicans -- they can't even talk right, never mind their never having gone to an AAU Listed Eastern Liberal Arts University. (That, FYI, is author Paul Fussell's -- in Class -- snob list of universities; if you didn't go to one of these, you are as unlettered and unqualified as a Slobbovian yak herder. Google "Palin +education" if you don't believe me.)
Rustbucket, thank you for the courteous ping, and the kind words.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/People/Robert_E_Lee/FREREL/1/22*.html
Reference to Lee’s unhappy time as executor and overseer of his father in law’s estate.
Or are you just getting up a vigorous game of "Mark of Cain" again? -- which used to be imputed to other people, mind.
Or is it more serious, a zealous desire to break into other people's churches -- like the homosexuals did who defecated on the altar of St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York in the 80's -- and besmear and desecrate their objects of veneration?
That would seem to bespeak a certain pathological hatred.
Well?
So do you agree that Lee spent several years as overseer of his father in law’s estates?
So his alleged spotless character is somewhat marred by his association with the horrific institution of human slavery.
Feel free to venerate him. Far be it from me to interfere with your heresy. Just understand that others may disagree.
Well, guess what? Your impulse is naked now, even if your arms are still as short as ever. Run along, little man. Honest people don't have the time of day for reflexive backbiters like you.
No. I have no need to smear. He rolled around in it himself. I merely report what others have reported. Freeman who I referenced is a kind reporter of events in Lee’s life.
That you are embarrassed by his flaws, speaks well of you. That you project that embarrassment onto me speaks poorly of you.
Two posts in a row referencing fecal issues.
I think you need to do some soul searching.
...or use a better grade of toilet paper.
Go fly a kite Bozo. I don’t hate Southerners. I have no use for morons like you. You’d flatter yourself thinking I waste the effort to hate you.
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