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FAU prof stirs controversy by disputing Newtown massacre
Sun Sentinel ^ | January 8, 2013 | Mike Clary

Posted on 01/08/2013 9:22:07 AM PST by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip
why have we seen no pictures or videos of the broken glass in the front of the school, bulletholes in windows

Because if he was buzzed in or got past any metal detectors or whatever, then the school's new security measures were just proved to be major failures. Just like a gun grab would do nothing to stop sickos from doing this again. There are many unanswered questions and far too many things that aren't adding up.

81 posted on 01/08/2013 1:15:38 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: liberalh8ter
and then watching the coroner explain that all bullets removed from the victims came from a long rifle

It's was the freaky M.E.'s presser that sent up red flags for me. First, the cops said there were only handguns inside the school. Then we see a rifle being taken out of the trunk. The cops then say the rifle was in the trunk but still went with the story that the shooting was done with handguns. Along comes freaky coroner who says they were all shot with a long gun so IMMEDIATELY the cops change their story to there being one long gun inside the school. Then the msm start reporting there were one, two or three assault weapons used inside the school with more in the trunk and more at the house. Either the first cops are so dumb they don't know the difference between a handgun and a rifle and can't count past 2 or something's rotten in the state of CT.

82 posted on 01/08/2013 1:26:51 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: concerned about politics
Nothing other than too many coincidences to make it NOT real. I'm surprised how people dismiss the connections.

What coincidences? The only thing we have was some blogger claiming these two men were going to testify in front of the Senate in some LIBOR scandal hearing. And he made these claims without any supporting evidence whatsoever to back these claims up. None! Go back and read the article yourself. No evidence these two men were slated to testify and, in fact, no evidence the Senate is even holding a hearing on the matter. In short, he made it up out of thin air, placed it on his blog and watched the conspiracy nuts run with it!

Good grief! I could write a blog tomorrow claiming Adam Lanza was Ben Affleck's cousin and this is why Affleck backed out of MA's Senate run, offer nothing whatsoever in the way of evidence or links to back me up and watch it spread like wildfire across the interwebs as conspiracy loons had a field day! No different that what "Fabian4Liberty" did.

83 posted on 01/08/2013 1:32:51 PM PST by Drew68
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To: bgill

It’s actually pretty simple. Lanza brought a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns—a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm—into the school with him. He used the AR-15 to shoot everyone else, and one of the handguns to kill himself. The shotgun was left in the trunk of his car, which is the gun seen being taken out of the trunk in the overhead video.


84 posted on 01/08/2013 1:37:36 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: Las Vegas Ron

>> “Kind of gives me pause...” <<

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What here doesn’t these days?


85 posted on 01/08/2013 1:38:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: cuban leaf

If this were true, then the time for open rebellion would be now.

I will hold judgement until further information is available.


86 posted on 01/08/2013 1:43:29 PM PST by Delta Dawn
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To: Uncle Chip
the school nurse who hid in a closet for 4 hours

No way was she in a closet for 4 hours. The cops were on the scene within 20 minutes. I would imagine the initial group would enter at the front door and would search the front offices first. She would be one of the first escorted out of the building. The cops were giving pressers in less than 4 hours with number of victims and Lanza. Isn't she the one who said Lanza's mother worked at the school? Amazing how many of these people can't get their stories straight.

87 posted on 01/08/2013 1:50:11 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Drew68
Wow! Even you're not buying this LIBOR shooting conspiracy crap? I'm impressed!

It's called evaluating circumstances and evidence, then coming to a rational conclusion.

There is plenty of evidence to support that there is questionable goings on here with this Sandy Hook shooting.

It's nice to have a place where thoughtful people congregate to discuss, debate and sort out the BS without trolls interrupting.

I'm glad you're impressed, sorry I can't say the same.

88 posted on 01/08/2013 1:51:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: editor-surveyor
What here doesn’t these days?

So true and so sad.

I think it was the day this happened I posted that I hoped we would just get the truth on this story....boy was I dreaming or what?

89 posted on 01/08/2013 1:55:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: RipSawyer

Just wait until you stand at the sixth floor Texas Book Depository window. I never believed the magic bullet and casually thought there was more to the story but didn’t have any tin foil investments. My earth shattering moment was when I stood at the window.


90 posted on 01/08/2013 1:58:47 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: drjimmy
The shotgun was left in the trunk of his car, which is the gun seen being taken out of the trunk in the overhead video.

The problem with that is the feds told the media it was an AR 15 in the trunk, not a shot gun.

If the feds don't know the difference, then we really are screwed.

91 posted on 01/08/2013 2:03:18 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: bgill

<>No way was she in a closet for 4 hours.<>

Sandy Hook Nurse, Secretary Hid in Closet for Four Hours

http://www.emsworld.com/news/10843400/sandy-hook-nurse-secretary-hid-in-closet-for-four-hours

NEWTOWN, Conn. — The nurse at Sandy Hook Elementary School says she and the school secretary stayed hidden in a supply closet for almost four hours after the Connecticut school massacre had ended, leaving 20 children and six adults dead.

Sally Cox told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Monday that she knew “something terrible was happening” Friday morning when she heard loud popping sounds and the school secretary called out to her. She says she went under her computer desk, and the gunman entered her office. She says she could see his legs from the knees down, his boots facing her desk. He then left and closed the door.

She says the secretary raced into her office and they called 911 and hid in the closet. Cox says they were “petrified” and “didn’t know how many there could have been.”


92 posted on 01/08/2013 2:16:07 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Las Vegas Ron

From the media:
“Lanza, 20, fired a Bushmaster .223 semiautomatic rifle to kill many of the 20 children and six adults at the school Friday, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said. He used a Glock 10-millimeter handgun to shoot himself in the head. He also carried at Sig Sauer pistol. A shotgun, the type of which was not identified, was found in the trunk of Lanza’s car outside the school. ‘The Bushmaster was used in the school, in its entirety, and [a] handgun was used to take his own life,’ Vance said.”


93 posted on 01/08/2013 2:22:25 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: bgill

Well then anyone living up in Newtown or surrounding area can put this rumor to rest by going to the school and taking pictures of the entrance for us all.


94 posted on 01/08/2013 2:22:38 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I see three well known trolls on this thread who crawled out of hibernation to debunk this LIBOR thingy.

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Well if someone positing the truth of the LIBOR thingy would bunk it, the three well known trolls would not have to debunk it.

There has been not an ounce of evidence presented that the LIBOR thingy is true, not an ounce. You recognize that yourself.

Now I have to go back and figure out who the three well known trolls are.


95 posted on 01/08/2013 2:29:28 PM PST by dmz
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To: struggle

I am all for examining things...but the page was originally created under another name on the 10th and then changed to be a RIP page for Vicki Soto after the event.

They are called troll pages and people use them to collect Facebook friends for marketing purposes by creating pages as big events happen because they know people will be searching facebook to see what they see.

I think this is more a case of the Obama administration using the event to steer the conversation then it is a case of a massive cover up or some sort of faked event.


96 posted on 01/08/2013 2:40:24 PM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: dmz; Las Vegas Ron
Now I have to go back and figure out who the three well known trolls are.

you mean: the other two ....

97 posted on 01/08/2013 2:40:37 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Not one ambulance left the scene that day — not one.

One teacher who was wounded survived but there has been no follow up on her memories or her condition. You'd think there'd be several kids who were too tramatized to walk out on their own and would have to be taken to the trauma unit. How many kids when told to keep their eyes closed would really do that? One out of one hundred? You'd need to keep your eyes open to see where you're going. Can you imagine the law suit if a kid tripped and hurt himself after being told to keep his eyes closed - can't have that. As you said, not one cut themselves? No one slipped in the blood? The "keep their eyes closed" sounded too tree huggy at the time and even more so now. The clip of the practice event looked more real with all the "officials" running around performing duties than Sandy Hook did. I'm not sure what to believe. I'm going with something happened but what it might have been is anyone's guess. Too many people not to keep it quiet.

98 posted on 01/08/2013 3:18:58 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Uncle Chip; All

There was this announcement from the Repub Senators on the AG committee with regards to LIBOR.

http://www.ag.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/republican-ag-senators_call-for-ag-hearings-on-libor


99 posted on 01/08/2013 4:42:53 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: bgill

There was that lawyer that just pulled his lawsuit against the State of Conn for the psych trauma of a student who survived. He withdrew it to evaluate new evidence.

http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2012/12/29/occupys-lawyer-suing-ct-over-sandy-hook-massacre-seeks-100-million-dollars-for-survivor-who-heard-tragedy-on-intercom/


100 posted on 01/08/2013 4:46:28 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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