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COLD WAR DIPLOMAT BLAMES SOVIETS FOR JFK ASSASSINATION
express.co.uk ^ | January 6,2013 | Greg Christison

Posted on 01/07/2013 3:18:34 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Chainmail

I think it was organized crime.

John and Robert Kennedy as AG, both assassinated, both were coming down on the organized crime figures clamping down on the mob, while their father was part of that life as a bootleggger,,, and the Mob has a particularly nasty tradition of dealing with traitors harshly. And covering their tracks.

The KGB would have done it better than Oswald, I agree. The mob would be even better.


21 posted on 01/07/2013 5:59:48 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We have been consistently lied to about the Kennedy assassination, beginning with the leftist Mark Lane’s “Rush to Judgment”.


22 posted on 01/07/2013 6:09:44 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Vaquero
A friend of mine said his grandfather was a union boss in Mass. (Mafia) and knew the Kennedys quite well. Couldn't stand them.

One of the big myths of the Kennedys was they were trying to destroy the Mafia. His grandfather said the Kennedys were trying to get control of The Business, not destroy it.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union, one thing they learned was the USSR wasn't a govt as we understand it, but was an organized crime syndicate.

Had the Kennedys gotten control of organized crime in this country with the entire backing of the US govt., they would have been in direct competition with organized crime in the USSR which was backed by the govt.

I believe there was a combination of organized crime and the USSR behind it.

23 posted on 01/07/2013 6:13:02 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Happy New Eric


24 posted on 01/07/2013 6:28:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Wildbill22
You could be right; after all, Jack Ruby had mob connections - but no way would the mob have depended on Oswald to do the job and it would have been harder for them to have found an framed him.

Most of the evidence points to Lee Oswald being an informant for the feds (how else do you explain his easy return with Russian wife to the States and his "Fair Play for Cuba" office being located in the same building as the FBI?).

Don't get me wrong - if some arm of our government did get JFK, praise to them. JFK was an enormous danger to the world and getting worse every day. People forget how incredibly dangerous things were back then, how hair-trigger our relations got with the Sovs and how close we came to worldwide extinction. He was infamously fast and loose with the Constitution and the press let him get away with everything. Remember that JFK was responsible for several successful and attempted assassinations (Patrice Lumumba, Dag Hammerschold, Ngo Dinh Diem, and tries at Castro) so in a sense, he died by his own sword.

25 posted on 01/07/2013 6:34:07 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: bmwcyle
Back at cha.

You'll be pleased to know I invested in one of those Heiney vehicles...

26 posted on 01/07/2013 6:39:01 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: PowderMonkey

We Marines appreciate your vote of confidence but even we can miss a critical target if a weapons isn’t properly zeroed: remember that Oswald supposedly to a shot at a General Walker earlier and missed him at close range with that same rifle.


27 posted on 01/07/2013 6:39:57 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: PowderMonkey

We Marines appreciate your vote of confidence but even we can miss a critical target if a weapons isn’t properly zeroed: remember that Oswald supposedly took a shot at a General Walker earlier and missed him at close range with that same rifle.


28 posted on 01/07/2013 6:40:35 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: IMR 4350

yeah lots of unanswered questions....
scary to think our ‘free society’ is controlled by so many criminals....like right now for instance.

by the way, I buy and use your powder...
also use IMR 4320 and IMR 4831 and H 4831 and IMR 3031...
...for pistols W-231(target and subsonic) and IMR 4227 (magnum and +P loads) I could go on....


29 posted on 01/07/2013 6:41:15 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Being in high school freshman English class when this occured, the teacher suggested that we all write down our feelings.

I blamed Castro’s Cuba...which then and now takes in a lot of ground.


30 posted on 01/07/2013 6:50:20 AM PST by onedoug
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To: LukeL
How does Jack Ruby fit into all of this?

Interestingly, Ruby visited Cuba in 1959, shortly after Castro came to power, but the Warren Commission didn't probe extensively into this trip.

In the months following the assassination, some conservatives raised the question as to whether Jack Ruby was the same person as Jack Rubinstein, a prominent member of the Young Communist League in the late 1920's.

31 posted on 01/07/2013 6:51:23 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Ann Archy

“I still believe LBJ and Lady Bird were behind this”You’re not alone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBird!

From the link:

MacBird! was a 1967 satire by Barbara Garson that superimposed the transferral of power following the Kennedy assassination onto the plot of Shakespeare’s Macbeth.

Thus John F. Kennedy becomes “Ken O’Dunc”, Lyndon Johnson becomes “MacBird”, Lady Bird Johnson becomes “Lady MacBird”, and so forth. As Macbeth assassinates Duncan, so MacBird is responsible for the assassination of Ken O’Dunc; and as Macbeth is defeated by Macduff, so MacBird is defeated by Robert O’Dunc (i.e. Robert Kennedy). This action is significantly influenced by the Three Witches, representing Students, Blacks, and Leftists.

Garson says she was not seriously accusing Johnson of complicity in the Kennedy assassination:

“People used to ask me then, ‘Do you really think Johnson killed Kennedy?’ “ Garson, now 65, recalls. “I never took that seriously. I used to say to people, ‘If he did, it’s the least of his crimes.’ It was not what the play was about. The plot was a given.”[1]

The play parodies sequences from Shakespearean tragedies including Macbeth, Hamlet, and Richard III, albeit with Texas and Boston accents. The action follows MacBird from the Democratic Convention of 1960, when he becomes Ken O’Dunc’s Vice-President (”Hail, Vice-President thou art!”), to Ken O’Dunc’s assassination (at the urging of Lady MacBird), to Robert O’Dunc’s victory over MacBird at the next convention.

Macbird! started out as a short satirical sketch by Garson, a recent graduate of the Berkeley anti-Vietnam war movement. It was developed into a full-length play with help from writer/director Roy Levine (and Shakespeare).

The production, which opened a mere three years after the Kennedy assassination, was quite controversial. It has been said that pressure from local authorities was applied to theaters in New York who were considering it. The Village Gate was the only theater willing to defy this pressure and mount the play. Macbird opened there on February 22, 1967, and closed and closed on January 21, 1968, after 386 performances.


32 posted on 01/07/2013 6:53:39 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: muir_redwoods
I’ve stood at the window next to the one Oswald shot from at the book depository building in Dallas.

Me too. It was an amazingly easy shot.

33 posted on 01/07/2013 6:58:58 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Fiji Hill
Also did Jack Ruby know Oswald? Witnesses say that he did but the Warren Commission didn't care.
34 posted on 01/07/2013 7:04:07 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I have always believed Oswald to have been the sole and only assassin. However, if he was part of a conspiracy, I believe the Cubans may have been involved. In his book Red Friday: November 22nd, 1963 (Chicago: Hallberg, 1969), Carlos Bringier makes a strong case for a Cuban connection.
35 posted on 01/07/2013 7:05:22 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
a former Foreign Service diplomat reveals evidence which proves

...and what follows is a bunch of conjecture and pretty much paraphrases what Mailer wrote in Harlot's Ghost.

But I understand...he's trying to sell his book.

36 posted on 01/07/2013 7:07:22 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Vaquero
Hand loading really doesn't save you money since you are always buying new toys to experiment with.

19 different calibers so far.

The Clintons pretty much got control of organized crime in 1993 with the firing of the US Attorneys and the cover up of their investigation into official corruption.

That investigation came from the R King beating when bush ordered a review of complaints filed against police with the FBI.

Organized crime, particularly the drug trade, cannot function without corrupt law enforcement, police, prosecuting attorneys, judges, etc.

Pretty much everything the dems do can be traced to some type of corruption is involved.

37 posted on 01/07/2013 7:10:07 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Chainmail
JFK was responsible for several successful and attempted assassinations (Patrice Lumumba, Dag Hammerschold, Ngo Dinh Diem

Lumumba was executed by his enemies on January 17, 1961, during Eisenhower's administration.

38 posted on 01/07/2013 7:11:55 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: LukeL

Mafia member they had a hard on for JFK.


39 posted on 01/07/2013 7:37:23 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: mc5cents

It was a relatively easy shot from short range. Oswald didn’t need to be an expert to pull it off. With two weeks of snapping in and practice even somebody with your skill could have pulled it off.


40 posted on 01/07/2013 9:54:51 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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