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NRA chief urges armed guards in 'every single school,' dismisses calls for gun control
Fox ^ | December 21, 2012

Posted on 12/21/2012 9:27:58 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

Stupid.

Use the power of free enterprise. Any teacher with a CCW gets an extra $50 per week if they bring their weapon to school.

IN addition, these individuals must attend regular classes (i.e. range time!) on “teachers days” with the cops on marksmanship, armed response, etc. School district will pay the expense, trainers must document performance. Poor performance is grounds for rescinding pay.

IF an incident occurs, and they are called on to defend the student body, they get paid $1000; if the bring down any of the shooters, they get $10,000 per head.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 9:53:14 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: nonsporting

Listen, I can’t recall a single teacher that I had at anytime that was intimidating, could be intimidating, had the presence of someone who could and would kill you on the spot or anything of the sort.

If you want school kids to not be murdered, then defend them like you want them not to be murdered. Don’t half ass it and expect that will be enough, because it won’t be enough.

If you would prefer to keep your money, then keep your money and know that kids will be murdered in schools and the government will take our guns as a result.

Choose wisely.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 9:54:13 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Red Steel; Squantos
"The only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be permanently involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection."

Good grief. First of all, they are not "our kids," Mr. LaPierre; they are MY kids, your kids, and kids belonging to other parents. Cut the collectivist language and use your brain. Are you suggesting that we turn schools into armed camps that can refuse releasing their defenseless hostages back to their parents? Hell, we've got one school here in California that is installing high security fences with only ONE exit.

Until we can rid ourselves of the 19th Century factory model of education entirely, why isn't Mr. LaPierre advocating getting rid of "gun free zones" in schools and instituting free teacher training in the proper use of firearms and maybe even a foundation to supply them. Isn't that what the NRA is supposedly set up to do?

23 posted on 12/21/2012 9:58:07 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Red Steel

The left loves to shout that prohibition didn’t work so legalize “xyz” (insert special interest).

Obviously, Gun Prohibition in public is not working and it is TIME TO END GUN PROHIBITION.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 9:58:28 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: nonsporting

The problem is, most of them are liberal and will want nothing to do with that idea.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 9:59:43 AM PST by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: Red Steel
...for Congress to support a plan putting armed police officers in "every single school" in America.

Sounds like a federal program. Which means it'll go wrong; metastasize; waste money; get some people ruined, jailed, killed; erode liberty...

26 posted on 12/21/2012 10:00:47 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( If you care to reply, PM or risk non-detection amid ME ping list entries)
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To: Red Steel
Wow. Imagine that. Someone has come up with the idea that physically protecting unarmed children and teachers might actually be a good idea. And here I thought all that was needed was a sign and a law printed out on some piece of paper.

If they cannot keep drugs out of the country, they will never keep guns out of the country. Progresso's need to start dealing with the truth for a change. Put down the crack pipe and forget the fantasy utopian world.

27 posted on 12/21/2012 10:01:00 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Little Ray

I like your idea.
Why expand Government?


28 posted on 12/21/2012 10:01:35 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cripplecreek

This is a good start by the NRA.

But we need to make the case that an armed police officer is no different than any other citizen who has had approved training.

We should give schools the option of either hiring an armed security officer who is trained and certified AND/OR allowing any teachers who want to carry to undergo training and certification in order to carry.

Personally, I think it would be a huge safety advantage if an unknown number of teachers carried. It would be very difficult for an attacker to know who is armed and would make the potential target far less attractive to the evil and the criminal.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 10:03:35 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Red Steel
Armed union thugs in the school?

We know how unions work, so how many union workers will be
needed to fill each position?

This sounds like a screwing in a light bulb joke.

30 posted on 12/21/2012 10:04:17 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: yldstrk

And we allow those demented child- and granny-gropers in the TSA to carry firearms, but not a principal, not a teacher, either of whom can be trained and certified and can become as safe and reliable in the use of a firearm as any police officer.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 10:05:06 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed, but the gun-grabbers’ push for national action should be resisted with a sensible program that is also national.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 10:05:39 AM PST by expat2
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To: expat2
Agreed, but the gun-grabbers’ push for national action should be resisted with a sensible program that is also national.

This ain't even remotely sensible and will only hurt us.
33 posted on 12/21/2012 10:10:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

Wayne just got me to renew my and my wife’s membership for another 3 years.

LLS


34 posted on 12/21/2012 10:14:20 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: Red Steel

We don’t have a gun problem. We have a crazy person problem. If they can’t use guns, they will find another way to mass murder.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 10:15:10 AM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: cripplecreek

You bring up a very good point, and one that was going through my mind all throughout those part of LaPierre’s speech that I heard. What happens with these public statements is that the NRA (or whomever) is put on the defensive once again and is forced to repeat the same basic
commonsensical talking points its been defensively defending itself with for decades. Good as his speech was, one on level
what he’s doing is providing this Administration with a blueprint they will take credit for, as they assure us it’s all being implemented over time.Whatever long-range gun-grabbing designs this Administration HAD for legal gun-owners, it STILL HAS, and those will not be altered or streamlined one degree. The tension between Federal control and State control, as you point out is the “big story” going forward. As we all know,
the current Feds want EVERYTHING to be federalized, and they
won’t surrender that power anytime soon. La Pierre rightly pointed out that this Administration had ALREADY de-funded a few bills that would’ve made school security a lot tougher than it is now. I cannot believe that the Administration appreciated this one bit, and the first idiot surrogate statement demagoguing La Pierre and his speech has already been issued by the idiot surrogate Frank Lautenberg.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 10:15:28 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine

Here’s the transcript of the NRA press release.
http://home.nra.org/pdf/Transcript_PDF.pdf


37 posted on 12/21/2012 10:17:58 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: Red Steel
Solutions that make sense and would work - to Democrats this is akin to showing a cross to a vampire.

Remember when Clinton was lauded for putting 100,000 cops on the streets. 25 years later and putting more cops out there is "reckless", according to the Laut.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., in a statement after the press conference, called LaPierre's plan "reckless."

"It is beyond belief that following the Newtown tragedy, the National Rifle Association's leaders want to fill our communities with guns and arm more Americans," he said.

38 posted on 12/21/2012 10:20:41 AM PST by randita
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To: nonsporting
Typical police state solution. More and more taxes will be bled from us to pay for an “ESA” — Education Security Administration.

Yes. Its stupid to even say it - it only plays into the hands of the gun-control politicians and their emotional supporters. Schools do NOT need armed guards. The chance of a Newton-style attack killing an average American child is probably less than their chance of getting struck by lightening twice in the same day.

39 posted on 12/21/2012 10:21:10 AM PST by PGR88
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To: supremedoctrine

The only thing worse than the democrats laughing at the plan is the democrats actually implementing it.

I grew up in gun heavy rural Michigan and could even bring guns to school for afternoon hunting into t5he 1980s and there was never a shooting. I’m guessing there was no prohibition against school employees carrying either.

The simple fact is that the answers are in the past, not the future.


40 posted on 12/21/2012 10:22:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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