Jewish groups push for action on gun control

jta.org ^ | December 18, 2012 | Ron Kampeas

[rmlew]

An interesting statement. Not sure what to make of it. I read your profile. Are there many politically conservative Jews in NYC? Virtually everything I read about American Jews in politics has to do with NYC, FL, or southern CA ... and they all are far left on the political spectrum.

This is a serious generalization but here goes. The Jews whose ancestors came to America from 1880 to 1923 tend to be liberal. (Of course, even then the modern fusion conservatism was created by Buckley, Chodorov and Meyers, two Jews and Catholic.) Jews who came after 1945 tend to be more conservative. This includes Russian and Syrian Jews, as well as Orthodox Jews of all backgrounds. (That is not to say that many poor Orthodox Jews cannot be bought with welfare). The most Jewish congressional district in NYC elected a conservative to replace Weiner. The most Jewish State Senate district in NYC elected arguably the most conservative state Senator in the northeast David Storobin, a Russian Jew. (Sadly, Storobin lost re-election because the state Conservative party is corrupt and imploded allowing a fake moderate Democrat to win the line in a primary and thus the general election in re-drawn district. The Democrats in the state are hysterical destroyed both district to punish those Jews for leaving the Shtetl.

In 2010, 4 conservative Jews ran for Congress and lost in NY. This year, Ohio Secretary of State Josh Mandel lost his run for Senate.

Jews in the South used to be conservative. The KKK destroyed that.

[MacNaughton]

Thank you for that overview. I do remember Weiner's seat being won by a Jewish conservative. I also recently read an article elsewhere by a Jewish immigrant which essentially agreed with your statement regarding Jewish-American political trends since 1945. Your observation about the KKK and its effect on Jewish thought in the South seems spot on.

A while back I read a book on the history of the Christian religion. The author made an interesting statement (see below).

The Divine Commission: a Sketch of Church History by Frank E. Wilson, © 1928 (multiple later printings) published by The National Council Protestant Episcopal Church
In this very well written history of Christianity, Bishop Wilson (from a diocese in Wisconsin) stated that a large immigration wave of Jews from eastern European nations came to the U.S. during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. They were largely responsible for introducing Marxism into the U.S.

Would you agree with this statement? If this was so, can you comment about the political nature of their descendents in current times, i.e., have they remained far left?

[rmlew]

Bob Turner is Catholic (I think Irish).

Marx (not a Jew) came to the US in the 1860's and covered the Civil War for a while as a journalist. There were plenty of WASP progressives some of whom became socialists, but Socialism and Marxism were largely imports.

Would you agree with this statement? If this was so, can you comment about the political nature of their descendents in current times, i.e., have they remained far left?
False grievance, alienation from Christians Americans, a confusion of Justice/charity with socialism, and the fact that they assimilated into urban liberalism. Sadly, Asians are following the same pathology

[pabianice]

My fellow Jews. Dangerously stupid and educated far past their ability to understand. Sigh.

[John S Mosby]

Correct. Jew-ISH, NOT Jews who practice orthodoxy or follow the Torah per the traditional interpretations.

These are the self-hating Jews, who use their JewISHness whenever it suits them culturally. But who do not hold to Judaism.

For this group here is something for them to read,from a REAL group of practicing Jews who know their history- The Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership:

“Startling evidence suggests that the Gun Control Act of 1968 was lifted, almost in its entirety, from Nazi legislation.” Link to page: http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

[OldArmy52]

Jews = stupid smart people.

A hopelessly stupid group of people who would have gone extinct multiple times over the centuries except for the intervention of God. Shows God has infinite patience with the hopelessly stupid.

Jews voting for Fascist candidates (ala Dem Party) and disarming potential victims of tyranny shows they learned nothing from history (Nazi Germany, etc).

Of course I’m not singling out Jews. The USA citizenry or at least the “low information voters” (Dem Party voters) are no better.

Sigh....too often, it feels like conservatives are the only folks around with any common sense.

[Nowhere Man]

There are a good many Jews that do not believe this gun control codswallop. Unfortunately, a huge number do and from reading the posts as I go down, which I usually don’t to as not to prejudice my thoughts, a lot of them are form the liberal reform wing. I’m part Russian Jew myself, my ancestors suffered under the pogroms and I believe in being armed. I;m only have a .22LR rifle but as the saying goes, “for every Jew, a .22.” B-)

[Nowhere Man]

I remember my 5th grade teacher back in 1977 stressed that the Holocaust must not happen again and she did mention that “there was one going on now” (in 1977) and told us about the Khmer Rouge.

[kearnyirish2]

I think when it was happening most people didn’t know what was going on; Western journalists that wanted to play “Hanoi Jane” literally disappeared (the Khmer Rouge viewed anything “Western”, including glasses and literacy, as evil that polluted their pure farmers’ utopia - they didn’t need some Western Benedict Arnold to sit on an AA gun for them). I wasn’t even in grammar school when it happened, but they kept a tight lid on their madness.

[longtermmemmory]

how about laws to stop the Assault Media?

should their be piers morgan caps?

should MSNBC have a special license to broadcast kooks like kramer, madow, mathews, or scaburow.

should mika only be allowed to tight angora sweaters? and not talk.

The Assault Media has proven themselves incompetent when it comes to covering these stories. They should not be allowed near a schoold for their on the ground photoops. The police should internet stream their press statements and by pass the reporters entirely.

Perhaps tabloid cue card readers like oreily should be banned altogether.

(little bit of sarcasm off)