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The Republicans Have Failed the Nation
RedState ^ | December 13th, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 12/13/2012 2:15:52 PM PST by neverdem

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To: okie01

I agree. But I was writing in response to a post about the Republicans having better success in elections when they govern conservatively — or at least pretend to.

Oh yes, there is a gulf between me and the current GOPe and it appears never the twain shall meet. I hope they prove me wrong, in a good way.


61 posted on 12/13/2012 6:13:31 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: x; Lancey Howard
Young Mitt just wasn't as political as ansel12 wants to believe.

Actually, Romney has been a political animal all of his life, starting as a republican intern in his early teens, attending the 1964 convention, being an activist in college, participating in campaigns including Governor and Presidential and Senate, for his parents, and political interviews all of his life (including the 1960s, and 1970s), leaving the republican party because of Reagan in 1979, donating to widely scattered campaigns during the 1980s and 1990s, becoming a supporter of democrats and a democrat fund raiser and voter, and running for office for the last 20 years while spending about 55 million of his own funds and breaking spending records in multiple campaigns.

Even Ann has run for political office. Mitt Romney was weaned on politics and has been involved with them all of his life.

62 posted on 12/13/2012 6:18:48 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: sauropod

mark


63 posted on 12/13/2012 6:19:58 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: Resettozero

You’re probably right.


64 posted on 12/13/2012 6:23:00 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Logical me

That was irrelevant to post 4. Do you know what this thread is about? The campaign is over, you can quit being so devoted to the man.


65 posted on 12/13/2012 6:23:04 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: bimboeruption

Thanks much.


66 posted on 12/13/2012 6:27:14 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: Lancey Howard; x
Romney: "Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to take us back to Reagan-Bush."

x already knows that stuff.

x has posted on this thread about a RedState story which included this text, "According to the town clerk, Romney became an Republican only on October 19, 1993. The implication is that Romney had either never voted between his registration as a independent in 1979 and 1992 (so his vote in 1992 automatically enrolled him as a Democrat) or that he was a regular Democrat voters in those earlier elections and changed to Republican to run for Senate."

Red State--Mitt Romney: Registered Democrat (also his registration as a independent in 1979)

67 posted on 12/13/2012 7:32:42 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: okie01

Except there would not be anything being negotiated now because it would have been done. We were in a stronger position a year ago. You can make a stand this year and have no strength. We all know this deal is going to be bad for us. We have no leverage. The Dems don’t care about defense cuts or taxes going up when republicans will be blamed. The deal that was on the table last year was a good one for conservatives. It was heavily weighted towards us. This one we are screwed. Then if economy rebounds Dems sat see. If the other deal happened and economy rebounded it might have been a different story in nov. We can’t kill the party or the movement in search of perfection. That is my only point. Good is not the enemy of the great.


68 posted on 12/13/2012 9:20:11 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: neverdem
Eric is on Cnn and he is not to be trusted any longer....

this is part of the plan....

plant a few phoney conservatives in media to belittle the pubs at every chance...

the rats have controlled the Senate for what now?....at least 6 yrs....we haven't had a budget in the last 3....they control the White house, the Senate and the media....

yeah, but its the pubs fault.....

I agree that we lack strong charismatic leadership at the top but the people I like who could demand a little attention keep getting knocked off by the rinos or the purists....I don't know who I dislike more...

69 posted on 12/13/2012 10:31:26 PM PST by cherry
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To: ansel12
STHU.......Romney was the best candidate at this time....

you sickening anti romniacs gave us another 4 with the dictator........be proud of yourself.....

pathetic whiners and losers....

70 posted on 12/13/2012 10:33:55 PM PST by cherry
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To: skeeter
Allen West lost....explain that......Martha McSally lost....explain that ....Mia Love lost...explain that.....

you people and your little theories about how Romney wasn't conservative enough hold no water because even hard core good conservatives lost.....

personally, I blame all of you neanderthals who voted for third party, or didn't vote, or who voted for bammmey just to show those rascal republicans how mad you are....

losers......egotists.....maniacs....

71 posted on 12/13/2012 10:39:49 PM PST by cherry
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To: Luircin
if the SHTF, as it surely will, I hope to invite people like you into my home....

we'll stick together....

in the meantime, live your life as happily as you can....I am so sorry that my generation ruined my country for you.....I have adult children and I can't bare to even talk to them about what I think is happening because I can't bare for them to live their lives without hope....

72 posted on 12/13/2012 10:42:48 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

Think about it, you just ran the worst candidate in modern history, and you may have ruined the GOP, and you are STILL WHINING even weeks after you had your head handed to you, and we are trying to figure out how to deal with the massive damage that you have caused to the republican brand by running that incredible loser.

You seem clueless to the facts of what you did, you were so determined to run your democrat, that you lost an election that you couldn’t lose, against Jimmy Carter part II.

Sickening indeed, and here you are, still whining about it, and evidently wanting to do it all over again in 2016.


73 posted on 12/13/2012 10:47:38 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: neverdem

>> We let our enemies define us by

There’s also a problem with blaming the “Republicans”. It’s the self-serving RINO establishment that’s failed the Republican Party.

It’s important we differentiate the “establishment” from the Republican constituency. We can’t have an amorphous collection of citizens too ashamed to be associated with the Republican name because of insider abuse. We need solidarity, and we must expel the RINO rot that has stained Reagan Republicanism. We begin locally.


74 posted on 12/13/2012 10:55:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: ansel12
"I" didn't run any candidate....

but for the record, FR was totally crazy with the Romney haters, the Sarah haters, the Gingrich haters, the Huckster haters, etc....

the same stupid purist crap keeps the pubs and conservatives killing off candidates early in the process and we have no consensus.....

until we learn to fight as a unit, to fight like one solid voice, to swallow our prejudices and look at elections as a business campaign to win at all costs, the pubs, the conservatives, the holier than thous will NEVER win....

some of you really think there will be a chance in 4 yrs....well, its over.....this was our last chance....the rats have it all figured out and our side is just peeing in its pants.....

pretty words don't mean a thing....winning the damn election does....at least if we controlled the white house we'd have a chance at someth

smugness is an ugly thing when our country is on the brink....

75 posted on 12/13/2012 10:59:21 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry

>> until we learn to fight as a unit, to fight like one solid voice

Agreed. But we still need to expel the RINO crap.


76 posted on 12/13/2012 11:09:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: cherry

Frankly you seem full of freeper hate, you launch into me with bile and hate, and then tell us how we need to love rinos who are destroying the party and conservatism.

If you don’t want see radical liberal rinos criticized and critiqued, then why come to a conservative site?

This is’t the place to find love for the William Welds, and Mitt Romney’s and Olympia Snows.


77 posted on 12/13/2012 11:14:51 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: cherry
A) I've voted straight GOP for 30 years

B) From the sound of your post you'd no doubt be surprised how little your opinion means to me.

Get lost.

78 posted on 12/14/2012 5:43:06 AM PST by skeeter
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To: neverdem

The trust of the article is correct.


79 posted on 12/14/2012 5:47:23 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: trisham

Here where I live in the lovely left-wing whacko State of New York, there is actually a Conservative Party that has a separate line on the ballot. You can register as a Conservative Party member.


80 posted on 12/14/2012 11:57:22 AM PST by AdaGray
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