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Conservatives vs. the GOP - Republicans in Congress are warned that they will lose their base if...
National Review Online ^ | November 30, 2012 | John Fund

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:20:39 PM PST by neverdem

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41 posted on 11/30/2012 7:14:27 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Finny

I was never a Romney hater and I resent you characterizing my comment as hating. I think a Romney win would have been a sign of God’s grace, which I fear has been withdrawn from a sinful nation. He was not my first choice, of course, but I voted for him. And I believe a majority of America voted for him and our present infestation is a usurper. I’m thinking Third Party simply because we have little left to lose.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 7:27:01 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: neverdem

RINO File.


43 posted on 11/30/2012 7:37:37 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Finny
Amen. It is so amazing how in the run-up to an election the most liberal candidate possible is on the ballot yet the wagons are circled and anyone that points out the candidates flaws is attacked. Yet after the fact so many try to pretend otherwise and finger point.

I unabashedly state I DID NOT vote for Myth, nor will I vote for his GOPE brethren. And that is because I still believe in representative government in this country and they do not represent me. Not the Reagan 75% "I'm your guy" metric; not even 50%

Not on abortion, gay "marriage" (in the military/Boy Scouts etc), taxes, gun rights, foreign policy (arming AQ in Syria etc), not on healthcare, education etc - nary a peep was mentioned in the debates about Benghazi or Fast and Furious to name a few. Many of the issues they don't even care about so they either A - pay lip service to the base or B - pander rather than researching and taking a stand

I feel I am beginning to sound like a broken record but I will reiterate once again that I have posted multiple times the platforms that Myth Romney supports are near the same as those supported by Hillary Clinton [the aforementioned issues] (and 0bama). So the questions I have posed:

If Hillary became an (R) and was running against 0 would you vote for her?

If so/not why/why not?

Not one of the lesser of two evils supporters stuck around to answer.

And the reason is because it destroys every premise they have for throwing their ballot in support of Myth and the other posers in the Stupid Party (R).

Instead it seems many want to poke fun at having any type of principles or moral absolutes and clamor for a 'bigger tent'. The platform needs to change, the base/voters needs to change, we need to reach out to this group or that group and compromise to support xxxxx liberal agenda. How about the party changes (to the platform it is chartered to stand for), or we do away with it?

Conservatives are so ready to boycott JCP, Starbucks, and Target because they support the homo agenda - yet will try to rally support for Myth; why?

Every day the list grows of businesses and media conservatives claim they refuse to support - yet the vote for, and give money to, candidates that support the very things conservatives are claiming to boycott.

Hell, the Wounded Warrior Project was trying to keep a non-political focus and strictly focus on providing assistance to wounded vets yet FReepers were lining up to deride them for not wanting to go on a pro-gun radio show and be viewed as supporting one political cause over another (even though WWP sponsors shooting and hunting events)......and yet

When he ran for the Senate and for governor, he supported a ban on assault rifles and the Brady Bill's five-day waiting period for gun purchases. He proudly said those positions wouldn't make him "the hero of the NRA." As governor, he made Massachusetts the first state to permanently ban assault weapons. He has even flip-flopped about whether he owns any guns. In New Hampshire, he was asked his view on the Second Amendment. He responded that he had been a hunter "pretty much all my life." Later, red-faced aides of Romney had to admit that Romney had never had a hunting license, and under further questioning, Romney acknowledged that his "lifetime of hunting" was having shot at some birds during a Republican governors meeting during a fund-raising event and maybe shooting at "small varmints" when he was seventeen with his cousin.....

Is the guy you voted for.

Selling the rope to hang ourselves with indeed.

44 posted on 11/30/2012 8:01:57 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Mamzelle

I was never a Romney hater (supported him after Palin dropped out) but the fact is virtually everyone who supported Romney did so as a less then optimum second choice.

It is no wonder he didn’t win.

Next time, we need a true, live and inspiring leader.

Either Republican or something else, what is important though is nominating someone who people can from their hearts, vote for with enthusiasm.


45 posted on 11/30/2012 8:09:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Finny

We can leave the GOP (I have) or ‘we’ collectively speaking, need to sit down and STFU because by our actions in light of the GOP’s behavior, ‘we’ must want to be the right wing plantation dwellers.

That simple folks. All the ‘feet to the fire’ talk is bs and we all know it. But some still refuse to believe their lyin’ eyes and ears.

The enemy is us. I am sick and tired of repeating the facts to the willfully deaf. We can hang together as conservatives and BE conservatives or just admit we are the GOP and we want liberalism.


46 posted on 11/30/2012 8:23:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Tzimisce

“I think Republicans lost the election BECAUSE they’re not listening to their base...”

True. The deciding factor was because a chunk of their base stayed home.


47 posted on 11/30/2012 8:53:01 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
The Next Mitt Romney:GOP Establishment trumpets another Great Moderate Hope -- Jeb Bush

Target: Old White Men

Conservatives Must Learn the Dark Arts of Image Manipulation

McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

48 posted on 12/01/2012 12:30:46 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
The Next Mitt Romney:GOP Establishment trumpets another Great Moderate Hope -- Jeb Bush

Target: Old White Men

Conservatives Must Learn the Dark Arts of Image Manipulation

McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

49 posted on 12/01/2012 12:31:48 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


50 posted on 12/01/2012 7:43:27 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mamzelle
I resent you characterizing my comment as hating.

Excuse me?

By what incredible path did you arrive at that conclusion? What on earth are you talking about?

51 posted on 12/01/2012 1:55:42 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Mamzelle
I think a Romney win would have been a sign of God’s grace, which I fear has been withdrawn from a sinful nation.

Ah. Excuse me, no need to reply to my earlier post, I see where you're coming from.

As far as I'm concerned, it is a blessing good sign of God's grace that Romney lost. There is nothing "hateful" about remembering Romney's solid depravity in caving to the homosexual agenda, to say nothing of remembering that he was indeed the author and Godfather of ObamaCare. You choose to characterize those of us willing to SPEAK THE TRUTH as being "hateful." And you are willing to tell God that by golly, you want a guy whose hand signed such Governor-type things as a proclamation endouraging Gay Youth Pride involvement in local middle schools, or law that ultimately forced adoption agencies to accommodate gay "parents." What on earth is hateful about speaking that truth here, and where do YOU get off thinking God would be proud of a nation of His followers willing to put such an abandoned amoral character in charge?

Listen, Mammy, God is smiling that enough of us believed in Him to reject an agent of some morally very bad stuff.

52 posted on 12/01/2012 2:05:42 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Repeat Offender; All
Amen, Brother FReeper.

We need the confidence to brush off the MSM dominant illusion that has people erroniously concluding that most Americans are childish idiots. Anyone who preaches that gospel is a loser by definition.

The MSM represents a sliver of American reality, but it appears to define it. The left has more talking heads, but on our side there are more Americans who reject the left than not. There must be -- otherwise Democrats wouldn't have to cheat to win. And certainly reading MSM consumer comments on MSM news sites indicates that the majority resent the liberal bias in the media.

But the insidious nature of the MSM taking the role of defining what "America" is thinking, has the majority perceiving itself as a minority. When elections are won by fraudulent votes, America is primed to regard them as legit.

Take heart, we do have the means to restore this nation. Confidence in our compatriots and the courage to defy a very convincing illusion are necessary.

53 posted on 12/01/2012 2:46:09 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well said.


54 posted on 12/01/2012 2:50:11 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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