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As Supersymmetry Fails Tests, Physicists Seek New Ideas
Simons Science News ^ | November 20, 2012 | Natalie Wolchover

Posted on 11/29/2012 3:10:46 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 11/29/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The photos of the “researchers” are very revealing. It looks more like a frat party, than a government research lab, but perhaps I’m confusing the two.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 3:28:23 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem

- The Big Bang Theory will always need technical consultants
- This is what happens when you discard that pesky unreal root
- They can cut their losses and put the LHC on Craigslist


3 posted on 11/29/2012 3:33:11 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: neverdem

“Science is this wonderfully self-correcting enterprise,”

Translation: Science is always guessing


4 posted on 11/29/2012 3:38:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: neverdem

“Of course, it is disappointing,” Shifman said. “We’re not gods. We’re not prophets. In the absence of some guidance from experimental data, how do you guess something about nature”

Well I guess they’re just going to have to go back to some of that Religious business again to get more ideas without actually crediting God for their inspirations...(sarcasm on)

Scientists need to get a clue...they need to include this equation into their algorithms if they ever want to get anywhere new and mind blowing... alpha=omega “the first and last”.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 3:38:57 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: neverdem
The competing Blue Laser projects imagined the winner would earn gazillions of bucks selling CD-like devices cut and read with blue lasers.

Then, someone won the race and all the losing physicists turned to other pursuits such as day-trading. Applying their minds to the trivial problems of moving money, stocks, bonds and derivatives around, they crashed all world markets in mere days creating the current eternal recession!

When the supersymmetry physicists move on, they possibly can get into some field that will reverse the recession!

Of note, the internet appears to have eaten away at all the potential blue laser profits, and is busily carving up cable TV

6 posted on 11/29/2012 3:49:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

They can calculate the correct thaw time of a 100% all beef pattie by separating the heat equation in cylindrical coordinates.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 3:53:36 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: 1010RD
The photos of the “researchers” are very revealing.

What's that mean? Physicists are supposed to look like Willard Romney?

8 posted on 11/29/2012 3:56:28 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: 1010RD
Ever see a picture of Albert Einstein? It looks like he combed his hair with a hand grenade.

Scientists are people.

/johnny

9 posted on 11/29/2012 4:03:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SpaceBar

ROTFLMAO ~ too much man, too much ~~~ I say send ‘em back to the stock market ~ my hamburgers gotta’ taste like hamburgers ~


10 posted on 11/29/2012 4:04:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: BenLurkin
Guess, test, see if the guess was correct, if not, rinse and repeat.

That's what science is.

Men trying to understand the beauty of God's creation. We see through a glass, darkly.

/johnny

11 posted on 11/29/2012 4:06:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Ever see a picture of Albert Einstein? It looks like he combed his hair with a hand grenade.

Best line I've heard / read all day!!!

12 posted on 11/29/2012 4:15:55 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: steve86

If they all looked like Romney then people would really get suspicious. They should all keep their own faces, but just change to his body-type - pressed jeans, an open button-down collar blue or white shirt with a Navy sportcoat would be fine.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 4:20:11 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: steve86
"What's that mean? Physicists are supposed to look like Willard Romney?"

Yes. And they ought to dress like him too!

Except, of course, those that work around rotating machinery that could grab hold of their silk ties and drag their faces into sharp nasty gears.

Above all else, they should protect their fabulous smiles.

14 posted on 11/29/2012 4:42:49 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: BenLurkin
Translation: Science is always guessing

Yes, except for Bad Science where they accept "consensus."

Keep banging the rocks together, boys.

15 posted on 11/29/2012 4:51:08 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: JRandomFreeper
We see through a glass, darkly.

Some darklier than others.

16 posted on 11/29/2012 4:56:08 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
First, I don't just post to any random Freeper. ;-]

Second, yes I have.

How much you want to bet he isn't wearing a greasy t-shirt under his jacket?

I just gave a Shifman look-a-like $10 as he sat under a railroad bridge in Chicago just a week ago.

Third, despite the hair Einstein is well groomed. Shifman's baldness isn't the issue, his sloppiness in an official photo is. Especially since he's wasting money getting it wrong.

Falkowski supplied that photo himself. It's his personal "official photo". He doesn't look like he's serious about his taxpayer subsidized stint at CERN.

Dear Taxpayer, Thanks for all the free money to hang out in Geneva. Europe is a blast, dudes. The trains are cheap on the student pass, chicks galore and they serve beer by the liter stein!. Awesome!!!

His photo makes his comment on the future of his profession especially rich: Falkowski says, the field will undergo a slow decay: “The number of jobs in particle physics will steadily decrease, and particle physicists will die out naturally." He'd not survive in a normal competitive system.

Last, somebody who hangs out around super colliders on the taxpayer's dime is as bad as a welfare queen in front of a big screen TV. What have he or Shifman produced to make the world a better place?

BTW, if you're Shifman or Falkowski no harm meant.

;-]

17 posted on 11/29/2012 4:56:08 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem
In John Horgan's book, The End of Science( 1996, ) he has a section in Chapter Three, The End of Physics, headed Feynman's Gloomy Prophecy. This was namely that particle physics would stagnate and "the philosopher's would take over". Horgan writes, "Feynman's vision was uncannily on target. He erred only in thinking that it would be millenia, not decades, before the philosophers closed in."

This is a great book, required reading.

18 posted on 11/29/2012 5:00:15 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: neverdem
Interesting the degree to which scientists rely on their aesthetic sense to discern scientific truth and weigh the validity of competing theories. It's just a real interesting universe we live in where truth and beauty seem to be so linked up.
19 posted on 11/29/2012 5:02:32 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: 1010RD
if you're Shifman or Falkowski no harm meant.

Dude, I'm a cook. The closest I get to science is H6C2O (arrange that to suit yourself).

If you think physicists are a mess, you should see 'em after closing and they hang out with the cooks. ;)

/johnny

20 posted on 11/29/2012 5:02:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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