Posted on 11/28/2012 10:33:56 AM PST by GVnana
Regarding the GOP, I thought ‘R’ was for retreat.
” Consider the results:”
I did, Newt. We lost because we ran RINOS. Nothing more, nothing less.
When someone to the left of Bill Clinton can register republican in 1993 and 19 years later be its republican nominee for President, while still campaigning against the partys platform for being pro-life, for homosexual Scout leaders and a gay military, and his only political accomplishments being that he gave the nation gay marriage and Romney Care, then something is wrong within the republican system.
It would have become real nasty though that was what I was wanting for the 2 ideologies to completely collide. These other games that are being played by outside personalities is just noise. The two parties had to fight, head to head. We just didn't get that this time. After Newt's crushing win, in South Carolina, all deals and pay offs came out to stop him. The Republicans have got the moderate wing in power until they let/or we take it from them the Tea Party come in at the table to be in leadership, they will never modernize. They have to listen to Newt or someone like him with the experience. The R's are losing. The C's win.
Instead of looking at the Romney campaign in isolation Republican activists and analysts should be looking at the culture, structure and system of the GOP and its consultants, people who are paid for campaign advice without long term institutional responsibilities.
Republicans need a thorough systematic lessons-learned approach because the problem is systemic rather than personality-based.
Ditch all of the national GOPe consultants. And Romney's own inner circle of advisers (fehrnstrom!) was even worse than the national pantywaists.
I absolutely agree with you. I wanted a straight up fight. Win or lose, I wanted our principles on the table.
Too many Repubs run from their supposed principles, hoping to get elected by hiding what they supposedly believe in, sneaking in the back door. When you win that way you have no mandate and you haven't persuaded the electorate.
I wanted someone who could lay out the case for liberty, and if you do that and lose, at least you lost making your case. The only way to turn the country is to articulate your case and over time the truth of what you say becomes irrefutable. But if you never make the case, you never persuade anyone.
I'm looking to see who stands up right now to carry on the fight. It isn't anyone presently in office, it doesn't look like. Good grief, they reelected Boehner as speaker. They really don't get it.
Newt had a lot to do with his own defeat. When he came out and slammed Romney on Bain Capital he was indistigusible from the occupy wall street crowd.
It’s glaringly obvious that the RNC is flatly opposed to conservative thought and will not support a conservative candidate for president. Unless or until the RINO-loving, ‘Rockefeller Republicans’ are swept out of power in the GOP, the party is doomed to electoral failure. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening any time soon. That is why I intend to switch my voter registration from Republican to independent. I know when I’m not wanted. Although the Republican party’s stand on ‘social issues’ remains valid the GOP no longer reflects my political values or those of most other political conservatives. If the party continues it’s drift to the left I expect it to become irrelevant within another 20 years.
Regarding Gingrich, "R" stands for "remarry".
Your time has past, Newt. Time to step aside.
I like this guy: Bill Whittle..........he and Newt would be a great team. watch his Q&A video in that site, he plays the Virtual President. He knows his stuff, as well as NEWT.
http://blip.tv/davidhorowitztv/bill-whittle-6444929
If this is typical of the discourse we have to look foward to for the next four years, brace yourselves for President Biden.
Baloney. We lost because the Republican leadership has been sitting on their collective butts for the past 20 years while the Dems have figured out what it takes to “get the vote out”. They work their butts off at the local level. Yes, they cheat like hell where they can but if the Republicans were as organized as the Dems, they would have won as the Romney voters would have overwhelmed the Obama voters.
Once the grassroots work night and day, to get the people elected, they eventually, become milk toast Republican so not to make waves. Term limits is the answer. Romney got a lot of votes thanks to the grassroots/TP. They do a heck a job on the ground but were seeing lot of voters throwing their hands up about the candidate.
Yes, that was ridiculous.
Newt is a good talker but people also forget that he "caved" over the Gov't shutdown debate with Clinton, the same thing for which people are up in arms against Boehner.
The other team was better coached, had a better game plan, and executed better. I players were about the same.
Regarding the GOP, I thought R was for retreat.
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I thought it was ‘reruns’, or ‘retread’...
REPUBLICANS Not the RNC selected a liberal to run for President..
NOT THE RNC...
Useing the RNC is just a strawman.. its most republicans that chose the liberal to run..
and by the way REJECTED literally ALL conservative candidates..
IF you are a conservative and still a member of the republican party...
YOU’RE PART OF THE PROBLEM....
The bad apples(RINOS) have spoiled the whole barrel..
If you hang around you are now or will become a bad apple as well..
The democrats have perfected voter fraud to such a beautiful extent VOTING is a loosers game..
You have to give it to them.. it was brilliant..
NEW TACTICS ARE NEEDED.. “voting is not IT”...
Saul Alinsky tactics WORKED.. better than expected..
THIS MUST be admitted and faced.. or you have just become Syisphus.
forever rolling a ball uphill..
** Clue; Many republicans have been rolling a ball uphill for decades..
Our primaries were full of fraud- like the democrats crossing over....we did not get the person that we wanted in truth.. ABO hurt conservatism/faithful. When I called into the RNC headquarters telling them that we were seeing many voters not enthusiastic for Mitt Romney, they replied that he was the candidate. THIS WAS DURING THE PRIMARIES. Yes, the republicans must be blamed too for following the likes of Bill O Reilly; all of the stuff that are given to swallow thinking it's authentic summaries. We got the candidate the media wanted. Next time, to heck with what they want. Find the most principled conservative out there as far I am concerned and listen to Newt; those like him. If they rerun a moderate, we all better come together the next time and expect less than a perfect man or woman who has more good than fault. IMO.
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