Posted on 11/24/2012 4:19:03 AM PST by Kaslin
You and I don’t agree often. But that was an excellent post.
You want to put paragaph breaks in that and try again?
Nobody’s going to bother trying to read that wall of type.
We lost the election because the base stayed home, for the most part. We need to run conservatives for office and stand by our conservative principles in social issues, not abandon them.
Republicans ceded the number one issue this election - Obamacare - back in March. And they are surprised they lost?
Hi there, ya think you could re-post this, this time paragraphs would be nice.
I am amazed that people keep returning to evangelicals when seeking to place blame for Romney’s loss. Despite being basically shunned and shut out by the Romney campaign, on a percentage basis more evangelicals voted for the guy than any other group, Including Mormons themselves.
So, any post mortem analysis needs to recognize that Romney failed to capture other groups upon which he did focus, yet retained this group even though he made no effort to do so. He still lost Catholics with a Catholic Vice Presidential candidate. Didn’t even carry Wisconsin. Fail.
Try concentrating on outreach failures where there actually was an outreach failure and there might actually be some benefit to be derived.
>>The way we win is by drawing our supporters out to vote for us.>>
I’m in NY State. I very much wanted a Romney sign. There was no listing for a phone for a Repub election office, none for the city. In short, there was no way to get a sign. In past elections, there were Repub offices for volunteers and to hand out signs. Why not this past election?
“social issues” are in actual fact moral issues
the old saw “you can’t legislate morality” is in actual fact FALSE
you can and you should.
killing, including killing defenseless babies, disabled and elderly is morally wrong
homosexuality is morally wrong
no age of consent for sex is morally wrong
divorce is morally wrong
adultery is morally wrong
the Democrats have reduced everything to equality of dollars and that is a bankrupt perspective
When (not if) the GOP dumps socials conservatives, they will lose me and most of their base.
Brand loyality only goes so far.
I am not sure that the base stayed home. That is a lame excuse to push third parties that have no chance what soever. The fact is 0bama stole the election. They might have skipped the senatorial election. There was no reason that we should not have gotten the majority, if not the super majority back if it hadn’t been for those who skipped it.
As far as the last two (legislatively), all 50 states legalized divorce at will and decriminalized adultery over 50 years ago.
The reason they did so was because of the incredible popularity of the central organizing principle of the Democratic Party : F*** who you want, when, where, and how you want, and let the taxpayers bear the consequences.
From the two major legislative victories (divorce and adultery), two others, abortion and homosex, follow naturally.
Pedophilia is an accomodation with the inevitable acceptance of homosex+whatever floats your boat, but it isnt necessarily inevitable in the way that abortion and homosex are.
The logical working out of consequence free sex re-elected Barack Obama. It really was his signature issue, and it carried the day.
It's important to recognize, however (diagnosis precedes treatment) that consequence-free heterosexual sex among adults is the keystone, and that it remains enormously popular. The need to kill the babies and to let the homosexuals into the carnival would not exist without the keystone.
Elections won't change any of this.
As far as the last two (legislatively), all 50 states legalized divorce at will and decriminalized adultery over 50 years ago.
The reason they did so was because of the incredible popularity of the central organizing principle of the Democratic Party : F*** who you want, when, where, and how you want, and let the taxpayers bear the consequences.
From the two major legislative victories (divorce and adultery), two others, abortion and homosex, follow naturally.
Pedophilia is an accomodation with the inevitable acceptance of homosex+whatever floats your boat, but it isnt necessarily inevitable in the way that abortion and homosex are.
The logical working out of consequence free sex re-elected Barack Obama. It really was his signature issue, and it carried the day.
It's important to recognize, however (diagnosis precedes treatment) that consequence-free heterosexual sex among adults is the keystone, and that it remains enormously popular. The need to kill the babies and to let the homosexuals into the carnival would not exist without the keystone.
Elections won't change any of this.
I’ve got a better one: Caving to Democrat policies breeds more customers for the social welfare system.
Jim Noble....is your best friend on FR “sakic”?
Neither of you belong on Free Republic
My best friend on Free Republic is Jim Thompson.
I'm not ADVOCATING for free and perverse sex. Can't you READ?
I'm discussing how we got to where we are. The roots of our present crisis go back 50 years, maybe 80 years.
And the roots need to be pulled up - otherwise, we won't get anywhere.
Example: "Traditional" marriage doesn't just mean two men and two women can't pretend to be married and get a few benefits. It ALSO means that it's PERMANENT and that adultery is both a crime and (maybe) grounds for divorce.
There is no "traditional" marriage movement that I'm aware of that would prevent unilateral divorce at will. But as long as the People demand unilateral divorce at will, they will also ACCEPT the pretend marriages among persons of the same sex, because by demanding unilateral divorce at will, THEY HAVE ALREADY OUTLAWED TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE.
Give my post another try. If I've been welcome here for fourteen years, I don't think Mr. Robinson will ban me over this.
His chief backers and staff people seemed to have no understanding of how to win an election when there are a lot of Republicans around.
As we take over the Republican party we need to make a list of those people so we don't end up with any of them in serious positions ~ they can go back and play with Massachusetts or something, but their time on the national stage IS DONE!
I'm guessing he got all their votes.
Obama sure didn't campaign for them eh!
LMAOROTF
JR ~ this JR ~ lets me do that ~ repeat stuff in different ways over a long period of time. Slowly but surely we are developing a theory for Conservative practice in the world of politics ~ here on FR ~ nowhere else, just here.
Glad you like it though ~ has several ying/yangs in it ~ names the audience ~ ties that to the real world ~ just about everyone can understand it I think. Think Machiavelli
Excellent point ~ there was a failure in his primary outreach group ~ the undecided middle grounders ~ they totally failed to show up.
“Romney’s main focus was on the non-existent but otherwise undecided middle with moderate views.”
An excellent post. This election has made clear to me what I understood only vaguely before.
The country is neither “center-right” nor “center-left”. The center, while numerically large, is politically impotent and in the war of ideas insignificant.
On Election Day, they follow the strong horse like the hopeless and weak morons they are.
HW Bush, Dole, Kerry, McCain and now Romney all lost by pleading with this “middle” rather than slapping them hard in the face and saying “follow me”. Obama obviously understood this - my G-d, look what he just sold the nation!
As I’ve said before, Bush was our Clinton (I had a long post on this after he came to our town in July 99). Romney was our Kerry. Sarah Palin is our Obama.
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