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Petraeus Affair: Military Can Prosecute Adulterers
Yahoo! NEWS - ABC OTUS News ^ | Nov 12, 2012 | MARTHA RADDATZ

Posted on 11/12/2012 10:34:28 AM PST by the_Watchman

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To: EEGator

Defense bill repeals military law on sodomy...

WASHINGTON (AP) – Recently passed Senate legislation would make sodomy and sex with animals legal under military law, ending long-standing prohibitions and triggering cries of perversion from conservative groups.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2011-12-08/us-defense-bill-sodomy/51753518/1


21 posted on 11/12/2012 11:43:03 AM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: Izzy Dunne; the_Watchman

The photos displayed seems to portrait some cosiness when he was in uniform. The subject is a sticking point not only for a military prosecution but also for perjury???


22 posted on 11/12/2012 11:47:56 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: TaraP

Thanks for the link.

Sex with animals?!?


23 posted on 11/12/2012 11:53:58 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator
Certainly gives new meaning to "foxholes"
24 posted on 11/12/2012 11:57:23 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: EEGator

Yes they can prosecute former military- retired or other separation designations if it is determined that the violations occurred while still on active duty. The military can and has yanked people back in to face prosecution. It is not common and I seriously doubt it would happen here but it is absolutely possible.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 11:57:33 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: the_Watchman

If the crime occurred while he was on active duty, he could be subject to recall and UCMJ prosecution. To prove adultery, you need a very high burden of proof (something on par with a notarized sex tape with three witnesses for adultery), and a willing prosecutor. Once that burden is met however, the charges get piled on (conduct unbecoming of a commissioned officer, failure to obey an order not to get it on while deployed, poor command climate, etc...)

By this point, Patraeus has certainly gotten the council of legal experts, and having his depth and breadth of experience in the legally careful world of the general officer corps, he’s not going to do anything accidentally to make the case against him any stronger.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by jz638
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To: Cyman

Oh jeese, you missed the dumbest guy on Earth, The Governor from South Carolina Mark Sanford and of course Senator Larry Craig....we could go on forever naming names.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 12:00:36 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Haha, very good!


28 posted on 11/12/2012 12:01:18 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Izzy Dunne

No offense, but I think you’re wrong.

I believe that the specificity of Petraeus’ resignation statement last week was a declaration of independence from the blackmail the O thugs were using to keep him in line.

He could have easily resigned “for personal reasons” or “to spend more time with his family” or some other generic reason. Why admit to adultery, thus exposing his wife and children to ridicule, unless he’s specifically removing the blackmail ammo they were using to keep him quiet?


29 posted on 11/12/2012 12:01:52 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: EEGator

http://www.stripes.com/news/panel-urges-ending-ucmj-s-sodomy-ban-1.95937

Well it USED to be Article 125. They did away with it. I can’t imagine how many times it was used anyway. Basically having sodomy with your wife could land you in jail...


30 posted on 11/12/2012 12:03:18 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Tammy8

I assume it would usually be for serious violations, like theft or security issues.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 12:04:14 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Never trust an officer who stays on active duty to work for a liberal president. NEVER. Patriotism has nothing to do with it. It’s an ego trip. Any one with a sense of decency will be no part of a presidential administration that is hostile to the military and wants to cut the force. Never forget the worthless Robert Gates, who was Bush’s second Sec of Defense.
Flags should have went up with this character when he decided to stay on as Obama’s Sec of Defense. He showed his true liberal colors when he was the main driving force in allowing sodomites in the US military. He advocated for lifting DADT. Bush was a RINO, who appointed as many liberals as he did conservatives. The absolute worst being the worthless John Roberts, with a close second Robert Gates.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 12:04:52 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Jedidah

Why admit to adultery, thus exposing his wife and children to ridicule,

Ridicule? I think they are looked upon with pity. I bet the wife stays with him.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 12:04:54 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: napscoordinator

True, no oral...that’s some BS!


34 posted on 11/12/2012 12:09:44 PM PST by EEGator
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To: NKP_Vet

I was only an E-4, but I’m so glad I got out. Homos, Muslim sensitivity training, and assorted other BS. It seems all Generals are highly political nowadays.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 12:14:12 PM PST by EEGator
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To: the_Watchman
So basically the Chicago mafia(obama/hillary administration)had the goods on Petraus and gave him an offer he couldn't refuse(or he would lose his pension/benefits)by "offering him" instead an honorable discharge(securing pension/benefits) AND the CIA position....

...but only in exchange for his silence/cooperation on...what?

(whats that? sure smells like blackmail to me)

36 posted on 11/12/2012 12:18:06 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Red Steel
I don’t see it happening but it can happen.

The "affair" didn't happen until after he was retired.

37 posted on 11/12/2012 12:22:22 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: napscoordinator

I probably should have said “embarrassment.”

The point remains. By admitting adultery, he removed the leverage others may have been holding over him.

Unless, of course, there’s more we don’t yet know.


38 posted on 11/12/2012 12:30:48 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: the_Watchman
Perhaps Petraus won't be forthcoming to Congress with a threat of prosecution over his head.

I seriously doubt that. He may have been an adulterer but he has served his country with honor and will likely continue to comply with every request made of him by the U.S. and Congress.......

As for Martha's statement: "possibly face military prosecution for adultery "

More mud slinging against the proverbial wall in order perpetuate and continue the controversy....

39 posted on 11/12/2012 12:33:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: the_Watchman

The chances of the military charging Petraeus with adultery after he has left service are worse than slim to none. Even in the case of adultery while still in service, it is extremely difficult to prove absent pictures or personal confession.

IIRC, Petraeus has put no timeline on his alleged adultery. Additionally, it is also impossible, if he recanted his confession, to prove beyond his own word. He didn’t confess under oath, and he could always say there were politically expedient, personal, psychological, etc., reasons that he said what he said and then recant his confession.

The military is not going to charge him. He did this purely to help Obama with the Benghazi case.

For the FBI to say they found out about “adultery” would require them to prove penetration. I’m betting they can’t do that, and that the military wouldn’t pursue such a thing without rock solid proof.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 12:38:45 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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