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It Is Time to Throw the Social Conservatives Out of the GOP (Not)
redstate.com ^ | November 9th, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 11/10/2012 8:05:19 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Drew68
Until Reagan came along, the party did not go firmly pro-life. And how many abortions did Reagan stop?

Reagan won 2 landslides and kept the Hyde Amendment and signed into law the Pro-life Mexico City policy. And Reagan's HHS didn't mandate Religious orgs pay for birth control.

101 posted on 11/10/2012 11:37:38 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“Without the socons, the Republican Party loses what remains of its backbone as well as any claim it may possess to moral authority. And some of us are ready to leave anyway.”

Yeah I’m not going to go out of my way to vote for someone who wants to kill babies just to get a tax cut.


102 posted on 11/10/2012 11:38:06 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: GeronL

Romney actually had illegals working for him and he still could not win their vote


103 posted on 11/10/2012 11:38:57 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: ari-freedom

lol. So true.


104 posted on 11/10/2012 11:42:12 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tsowellfan

Of course. They think they can convince us to lose our social conservatism and keep voting for them. They think they can convince us that social conservatism is too old fashioned and will never ever work.

Many of us live by principles and know it will work. We also will stick with it, even if no-one else is.


105 posted on 11/10/2012 11:44:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

They’re also trying to convince us they they did not lose the election by running a liberal Republican.


106 posted on 11/11/2012 12:45:16 AM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: tsowellfan

Their liberal Republican loses and it somehow proves that conservatism is dead. lol.


107 posted on 11/11/2012 1:56:06 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Post of the day.


108 posted on 11/11/2012 2:10:05 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Peter ODonnell
I think it is now widely understood that we just can’t win elections on a socially conservative platform.

How would you know? We haven't run a social Conservative since Reagan.

What would we be if we had the same principles as Romney? Uh Democrats? Besides this election was all about the econemy jobs, jobs jobs.

B$ Freepers knew it was about Obama and who he was, but we couldn’t criticize the nice man.

We have nothing to fear from that man, Obama.<John McCain>

109 posted on 11/11/2012 2:23:24 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: DaveMSmith
it's a hoot

Yes it is :)

110 posted on 11/11/2012 2:28:02 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: savagesusie

Say it again Susie, we have been invaded by Libertarians and Romulians again.


111 posted on 11/11/2012 2:31:06 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: lone star annie
It is such an issue loaded with land mines that we need to leave these issues

Precisely what we have done since Reagan. How is that working out annie? You call yourself a Texican, not hardly.

112 posted on 11/11/2012 2:35:03 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Jim Robinson

No, I’m not pushing liberalism—I certainly want no part of that, I’m not going to support it, nor would I suggest that anyone else sacrifice their principal beliefs to do so either.

I’m just trying to ask practical questions, get ideas, and discuss solutions for how Conservatism can be more clearly communicated to voters, and what things could be done differently which might be more effective towards achieving the ends Conservatives desire.


113 posted on 11/11/2012 2:36:39 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: GeronL

LOL My thoughts exactly. At this point I believe most of us are prety fed up with the GOP(e). Tea Party here we come!


114 posted on 11/11/2012 2:38:01 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: itsahoot

“Romneylans”

That’s the funniest thing I ever heard.


115 posted on 11/11/2012 2:38:22 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Shadow44

No. If the GOP had come out and said that these men a Christians and every Christian knows that however concieved every child is Known TO God and a miracle and a blessing. Since the editors at the New York Slimes are not Christians, they cannot understand this simple fact. All these men were saying and everything they are being castigated for is simple fact to Christians but unfathomable to others. Had the GOP done that they MIGHT have begun to “alter the terrain of the battlefield.” By continuing to struggle on the field of battle that the enemy has crafted for their own benefit they have relenquished the fight before even engaging. They are, indeed, the STUPID party. Enough. Time to go.


116 posted on 11/11/2012 2:42:13 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: GeronL; tsowellfan

Uh, FWIW I was a strong Newt supporter during the primaries, and wasn’t fond of Romney in the least.

Didn’t think Romney was a viable solution then, he (obviously) isn’t now, and his clones won’t be in the future.


117 posted on 11/11/2012 2:46:50 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: neverdem

The GOP elites trying to throw out social conservatism are the exact same people who insisted Mitt Romney was the most electable candidate in the primary.

Why in the HELL would we ever take advice from these idiots again?


118 posted on 11/11/2012 2:52:06 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: blaquebyrd
Can you convincingly advocate small government conservatism while mandating transvaginally probing American women’s vaginas?

The founding fathers decreed that life was one of our God-given rights. You can't be a constitutional conservative without being pro-life. I'm fine with not mandating that as long as we ban abortion outright.

Folks that is a real question we have to answer. You are foolish if you believe it didn’t cost votes.

Can you name one plank in the platform that didn't cost votes with somebody somewhere? The main thing is the decades-long perception that Republicans are the party of the rich. Romney won with incomes over $50,000 big and lost with incomes under $50,000 bigger. We cannot nominate any more candidates who both are and appear to be out-of-touch upper class guys born with silver spoons in their mouths.

We win with married women but lose with single women. It's about income. Single women have lower incomes so they vote Democrat. That's why they wanted free contraception.

119 posted on 11/11/2012 3:00:14 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: JediJones

This is where actual research would help. Figure out which planks of the party are hurting us most, and where, and why.

It’s important.


120 posted on 11/11/2012 3:03:37 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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