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The Voters Who Stayed Home (The Key to Understanding the Results of the 2012 Elections)
National Review ^ | 11/10/2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: JRandomFreeper

Life is a series of choices. You always try to make the best choice even in a bad situation. Romney was a better choice than Obama, and there’s not a sliver of doubt about that. You made the wrong choice....you took your marbles and went home.


221 posted on 11/10/2012 10:24:38 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Yep, our Grandfathers had to choose between Hitler or Stalin.


222 posted on 11/10/2012 10:26:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: carton253

Actually, I’d like to apologise for including you on the header of that post.

It was written before I read your post #146.

If my conceptions of your convictions & principals are incorrect, perhaps it is due to the ideas you publicly espoused prior to that post.

Again, I apologise.


223 posted on 11/10/2012 10:26:55 AM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: BlatherNaut
Because of the changing demographics of the electorate, if conservatives don’t accept a candidate that falls short of their ideal, the democrats will outnumber republican votes by ever-widening margins.

And

Because of the changing demographics of the electorate, if moderates don’t accept a candidate that falls short of their ideal, the democrats will outnumber republican votes by ever-widening margins.

224 posted on 11/10/2012 10:27:33 AM PST by Will88
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To: Soul of the South

Would Obama been able to win if he was white? The vast majority of black people voted for Obama because he was black. Very racist of them. But, that is the truth.

That begs the question - could Obama won the election if he were a white man?


225 posted on 11/10/2012 10:30:38 AM PST by silentknight
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To: Soul of the South
Perhaps when the suburban middle class worker is spending $10.00 per gallon for gasoline and can’t watch Dancing with the Stars due to frequent electric power blackouts, he will want to vote for “change”.

Hmmmm.

Californians are paying $5.00 a gallon for gas and get frequent brownouts during hot summers. They also pay through the nose for their *clean* energy and massive environmental and social regulations.

They just overwhelmingly voted for more of the same.

When the moochers and looters prevail, it doesn't matter what little inconceniences they may have to suffer as long as their free bling keeps on coming. If it stops coming, they can always riot or simply skip the middleman and go out to your place and steal some of yours. Or vote in more looter politicians with the passion to do the same.

226 posted on 11/10/2012 10:37:47 AM PST by Gritty (The can no longer can be kicked down the road. We're all out of road, there's only an abyss-Mk Steyn)
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To: driftless2
Life is seldom binary, newb.

You didn't get the votes you needed. Looks like YOU made the wrong choice.

Pointing at some crank in Texas (me) where Romney had a lock isn't adding to your credibility.

/johnny

227 posted on 11/10/2012 10:38:53 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Those “conservatives” that stayed at home, are more ignorant than the “obama phone lady”. She probably has decent excuses for her ignorance, but you don’t.


228 posted on 11/10/2012 10:40:18 AM PST by PsyOps
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I’ve never said that. I would NEVER say that.

"I guess your infantile brain can’t imagine someone on Freep actually having cred and influence elsewhere..."

229 posted on 11/10/2012 10:44:56 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I find the near sighted purists to be not only totally myopic, but border line traitorous.

They have no concept of reality, grasping to some semblance of purity and self righteousness while not voting, voting third party, etc., when the worst, most divisive, destructive anti-everything they claim to love and care for administration could have been voted out.

They'll bitch and moan about the Gope, how inept everyone (of course themselves excepted) is, and wonder what happened while our health care system, culture, and our economy go to the ash heap of history in the next four years.

They'll be squealing about everything without understanding the irony of their stupidity.

But they were pure......

230 posted on 11/10/2012 10:46:18 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ve been on this forum for fourteen years pal. Stop the ad hominem remarks and face the facts...you helped Obama get elected.


231 posted on 11/10/2012 10:49:01 AM PST by driftless2
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To: C. Edmund Wright; JCBreckenridge
Oh, I don't know, just writing an article that went viral and was linked to every Randian website everywhere - quoted by every talk radio host - and derided by every liberal website on the planet - IN DECEMBER OF 2008!!!!!!!!!! You didn't go nearly as Galt as I did, nearly as soon as I did, nor had the impact I did....LOL


232 posted on 11/10/2012 10:49:19 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: dforest

What you say is probably true, especially the line “4 more years of Obama will not make conservatism a winning thing”.
What this victory means ultimately is that the “takers” are being manipulated into a hardcore constituency that will usher in officially The Age of Class Warfare.
Class Warfare has been the calling card of this Administration FROM THE BEGINNING,and they’ve convinced enough people they’ve waged it “on their behalf”. As the next four years roll by and lurch on, the takers will find themselves STILL jobless and in all other ways downwardly mobile, were it not for the entitlements and gratuities this Administration has implicitly promised them. The S*it will hit the fan for them also, as more impossible stresses are placed upon the system to come up with money that won’t be there.
A Romney Administration MIGHT HAVE provided them with jobs that weren’t virtually all “governmental”, but when you’ve got BIG GOVERNMENT taking the place of free markets and private enterprise,that’s the ONLY direction that remains open and can be taken.This Administration has NEVER been interested in creating jobs-—they don’t know how to do it.
How they will manage this juggling act as the money runs out is anybody’s guess, but if their failures are as profound as they’ve been for the last four years, I don’t see any scenario except Class Warfare, and I mean REAL Class Warfare.


233 posted on 11/10/2012 10:54:35 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Ken H

Romney and his goons will count every vote to make it look close. There were lots of votes that were never counted in 2008 so stuff it.

Romney was a flip-flopping liar and the folks told you what they thought of him by starting home.


234 posted on 11/10/2012 10:59:44 AM PST by Truth101A
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To: SeekAndFind

Fox put out 2 polls this morning, and if I could figure out how to find anything on their site I would post them. The gist was what voters thought republicans cared about more.

The first was a list of issues. The rich and big business had over 50%. Taxpayers and middle class took less than 25%. The poor only got 3%. There were a couple more issues included but I can’t remember what they were. These were the numbers that really stood out for me.

The second poll was basically the same, but focused on not cutting taxes and cutting spending. They got 65% and 35% respectively.

Apparently, republicans and conservatives have a huge problem. Romney did talk a lot about not raising taxes on the rich. He talked very little about what he would do to help the poor. And although he did talk about the middle class, his message wasn’t clear enough. And his talk on cutting spending was boiled down to firing Big Bird.

Second. The right’s message was so distored and filtered through the media that voters had no clear picture of what Romney stood for, and the message they did get was not good. Unless the right can get ahold of the media, this is going to continue and we’ll never win another election. It’s not good enough to nominate strictly conservative candidates if their message doesn’t get out or gets distorted.

Really sorry I couldn’t post exact numbers.


235 posted on 11/10/2012 11:09:43 AM PST by DancingMyRainbow
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To: dforest

Speaking of doctors and the entire Medical Establishment,
what happened to them, and why has there been NO spokesman
(except by analysts tied more to “Politics” than “Medicine”)
who have said anything about rumblings within Medicine as they brace for Hurricane Obamacare? Are they in a state of denial? What percentage of them have any idea what is in store for them, both in terms of earning power, and how they’re allowed to practice their profession?
My suspicion is that over the next two years,as they fall by the wayside, or re-combine and try to form workable organizations to fit within the New Order, they will effectively be replaced by doctors Obama will draw in huge numbers from his beloved 3rd World. This trend has been developing for decades now, and it will soon be perfected.
Mediocre/Bad doctors will find a “home” in America, and it will probably still be way preferable to what they have in Africa, Indonesia, India, or wherever.


236 posted on 11/10/2012 11:10:06 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Timber Rattler

That POLITICO article was from 2010,didn’t you notice that.
Or are you suggesting it’s STILL Job One for the GOP to stop what might be a resurgent Sarah Palin?


237 posted on 11/10/2012 11:14:37 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Truth101A
Romney and his goons will count every vote to make it look close.

I did not know that Romney's people were the one's counting the votes. Well hell, they could still win!

There were lots of votes that were never counted in 2008 so stuff it.

Source for that claim?

238 posted on 11/10/2012 11:15:08 AM PST by Ken H
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To: dforest

I dont know about your assessment. We have to help break the system. Go Galt, buycott and boycott. I have a plan on making this work and will post later. Point is we are filthy, immoral, freak show society and we deserve this racist marxist homo president. He represents the people of America not the other way around.

Not until the system breaks and may are starving and perhaps dead will the people be humbled and destroy the marxist communists in our society. Until then our object should be to help the system break.


239 posted on 11/10/2012 11:17:47 AM PST by sasafras (TIME FOR A RESURGENCE - FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - NO MORE COMPLAINING - LET'S GET BUSY!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Whoops! Never mind my previous post-—I see what you meant by the “BUT” and the link.You were referring only to 2010.


240 posted on 11/10/2012 11:20:11 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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