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7 Things The GOP Needs To Do To Start Turning It Around
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 11/10/2012 4:14:47 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: JCBreckenridge
As for Newt - Santorum kicked his ass in the primaries.

As for Santorum - Romney kicked his butt in the primaries.

'Nuff said!

121 posted on 11/10/2012 8:20:37 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: JCBreckenridge
Since the majority of the population supports socialism - would you vote for the socialist candidate as a nominee in the hopes of winning the election?

I supported Newt and then Romney, so yes, I have and would.

122 posted on 11/10/2012 8:25:24 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: JCBreckenridge

MaxFlint said it succinctly well. It really does come to that word… compromise. Politics isn’t about what the politician personally wants in their own ideal universe—perhaps this is what Conservatives have been forgetting, that you kinda have to be willing to put yourself 2nd and be okay with that. The real objective is in crafting solutions representative of what constituents at large want… of course, there are many different ways of achieving the same goal, hence why elections really matter. And it’s in this respect that Conservatives can create solutions delivering results people want, in a way that’s methodologically compatible with their own principles and ultimately conducive towards a more optimal society.

I mean look, if it were up to me according to my own ideal universe, I’d have centralized government wholly disbanded such that essential functions of governance (police, courts, law, defense, etc.) were were fully privatized and provided to society via market-anarchy. But it’s not up to me, and that kind of arrangement likely isn’t going to happen in my lifetime or anywhere near it. It’s not realistic for me to pine for that at the exclusion of present-day realities. So, I instead take stock of the current sociopolitical situation as it is, with an eye towards what people want, and work within that according to my own philosophical principles of limited government that I believe are conducive to yielding superior solutions.


123 posted on 11/10/2012 8:30:04 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Utmost Certainty

You wouldn’t compromise on socialism, so why should we compromise on abortion?


124 posted on 11/10/2012 8:31:44 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: chiller

Sometimes you have to let your kids reap what they sow and not bail them out. That’s what we’re dealing with - a lot of overgrown children that are easily influenced and want to do what they want to do no matter what the consequences. You can’t tell them anything; let them learn the hard way. Then they’ll turn conservative once they realize that they may be the next someone who has to put their back into the wheel.


125 posted on 11/10/2012 8:32:28 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: MaxFlint

And I didn’t because I believe that there’s nothing to be gained by compromising core conservative principles.


126 posted on 11/10/2012 8:32:56 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Again, if someone had come to you in February and told you that Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain - would you have believed him?

The analysis you are basing this assumption on - was 100 percent false. We were told that Romney was electable. All the FReepers hollering that Romney would be a disaster - they were right.

Santorum couldn't win reelection in his own state, why do you assume he would have done better than Romney? Oh, and Romney got more electoral votes than McCain.

127 posted on 11/10/2012 8:35:25 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: kygolfman

How did McCain and Palin get more votes than Romney and Ryan?

I’m not saying it was Sarah Palin but…it was Sarah Palin.


128 posted on 11/10/2012 8:36:47 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Kaslin

I have no interest in turning around any RINO.


129 posted on 11/10/2012 8:41:24 AM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: JCBreckenridge
The reality is that I already live in a socialistic society. Medicare, Social Security, Welfare, Obamacare, etc—that stuff isn't going away any time soon. So the question becomes, what can a person like me with decidedly anti-socialist beliefs do—working within the context of sociopolitical circumstances as they are, not merely how I want them to be—to help roll back some socialism and achieve the same ends the society wants in at least a somewhat less socialistic manner?
130 posted on 11/10/2012 8:42:33 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Look, not ROMNEY nor RYAN even delivered their home states..... that should tell you something about OUR process as well as the electorate. Obama is dynamic to his supporters and base. I liked Mitt and Paul but the lack of pizzaz in a social media world takes it toll... they may be right on most issues but they fail to connect.

You may like or dislike Christie but this is how he won and could keep on winning... You either LOVE or HATE. You need some sort of action to win BIG or maybe LOSE big but being a soft nice guy with a few good ideas is no longer working....


131 posted on 11/10/2012 8:51:20 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: RichInOC

I tend to agree with you. We need to find and agree upon 1 articulate conservative presidential candidate that can excite the base first and then appeal to the independents. Not by being moderate, but being conservative and articulating the ideas that this country was founded on.


132 posted on 11/10/2012 10:39:17 AM PST by kygolfman
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To: linn37
I live in Pa. I know theres something wrong. If you want to close your eyes to it go ahead and blame the republican candidate. Thats what we continue to do and thats why in 2016 the same problem is going to com up.

Born and raised in West Chester and spent my adulthood in the Lehigh Valley. Moved to GA 3-years ago. I am under no delusions about the Philadelphia machine, but Romney lost PA by 5%. Are you suggesting that fraud accounts for > 5% of the vote? How would they get away with that without it being obvious? I guess it is possible, but I can not imagine the GOP machine would sit back and sit on their thumbs if there was obvious fraud.

133 posted on 11/10/2012 12:02:37 PM PST by EagleInGA
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To: Jim Noble

I thought some of the loyalty tests in your previous post were better ideas.


134 posted on 11/10/2012 12:23:50 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Timber Rattler

GOP-e’s leadership elections are in the next three months.


135 posted on 11/10/2012 12:33:03 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: csmusaret
Just like the Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, US Taxpayers Party, Bull Moose, Reform Party, and every other third party. They were and are failures.

Either we fix the GOP, or the dems get a permanent victory.

136 posted on 11/10/2012 12:35:46 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Mrs. P
Until we close our primaries, this will continue to happen. For some reason, the state GOPee leadership refuses to close the primary.

And guess what's coming up in the next three months here. Our county, district, and state leadership elections, including state committee positions. County's probably next month. The rest I think is decided in January.

137 posted on 11/10/2012 12:41:48 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Betty Jane
Most Americans do support his social values.

How on earth could you possibly reach this conclusion?

138 posted on 11/10/2012 12:50:33 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kaslin

Restrict early voting to just one 18-hour period one week before Election Day. That’s it. It gives the dems minimal time to schlepp their flunkies from polling place to polling place, to raise the dead, and to import faux voters from Somalia.

Institute the indelible purple-finger rule at all polling places.

Train democrats in the concept that 100% = Everything, and that having 108% turnout looks a bit suspicious. I know they’re democrats, and really really stupid, but this is a pretty easy concept. I learned fractions and percentages with a cardboard pie; maybe we could find one of those as a visual aid.

Have the GOP governors FIX THE MESSES in their respective states’ election laws. Have the GOP governors of states with militia put them on standby to keep things on the up-and-up at polling places.


139 posted on 11/10/2012 1:00:32 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Nuc 1.1; All
Nuc 1 forgot his password and had to start
a new account as Nuc 1.1. :D) Tough getting old.
I know yah mean; and what's worse, the GOP has...
a RINO in the Speaker Of the House position
& a CINO (up for Re-election) as the Sen. Min. Leader.
& not a "Set of Balls" between any in the leadership.
..they'll surrender @ the drop of a hat..any hat.

140 posted on 11/10/2012 2:25:06 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth. - RWR 8-)
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