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I will say that my friends would not cast me as racist for my responses. Their friends most likely would because that is just how it rolls sometimes, but I know that the strength of relationship is more powerful than words on a forum. That being said, I have never in my life been made to feel worse than recently when it comes to how whites are perceived wholesale and its not going away any time soon. The mere mention of an issue between a white and any other race many times starts with the accusation of racism then the dismissal of their point because of it...in other words it is power in the hands of those so inclined to use it and in politics, and society, that is so very dangerous.
1 posted on 11/09/2012 6:03:23 AM PST by ICE-FLYER
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“As Obama and Eric Holder know, there’s good money to be made in racial disharmony. The jesse jackson family has made millions cultivating the seeds of hate. Let me know how that works out for you in 2016.”


28 posted on 11/09/2012 6:30:10 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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Give them the words from Journey ... Don’t Stop Believing.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 6:32:25 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Built by slaves? Horsesh!t

The slaves that built the country are the ones putting in 50-70 hours a week and getting half of their money confiscated by this so called government of ours! Only to have that money redistributed to low lifes who can’t get up in the morning and take a piss by themselves!

The next revolution will be about slavery, but not the kind we had 150 years ago! Bank on it.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:37 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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I’d just say that they must want white people to be racist, because if they keep accusing them of it, no matter what white people do, then white people have no motivation not to be racist. I’ve been called a racist so many times, it’s like calling me a doo-doo head, it carries absolutely no sting anymore.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 6:41:56 AM PST by Boogieman
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Their claims of racism now fall on deaf ears, I DON’T CARE ANYMORE! The race card has been overplayed and the deck is full of JOKERS. Obama isn’t BLACK, he’s RED! He played the blacks, asians and latinos for the dupes that they are. The rich may get poorer, but so will the middle class and the poor. When they don’t get their goodies anymore they can go ahead and complain, but they’ll be greeted by the government they so love with the business end of a gun. Good Luck! The “Truly Stupid” will never see it coming.
It is time to prep! It has begun.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 6:44:22 AM PST by derSchurfer (When the Rule of Law is ignored good citizens will take the law into their own hands.)
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Their claims of racism now fall on deaf ears, I DON’T CARE ANYMORE! The race card has been overplayed and the deck is full of JOKERS. Obama isn’t BLACK, he’s RED! He played the blacks, asians and latinos for the dupes that they are. The rich may get poorer, but so will the middle class and the poor. When they don’t get their goodies anymore they can go ahead and complain, but they’ll be greeted by the government they so love with the business end of a gun. Good Luck! The “Truly Stupid” will never see it coming.
It is time to prep! It has begun.


42 posted on 11/09/2012 6:49:24 AM PST by derSchurfer (When the Rule of Law is ignored good citizens will take the law into their own hands.)
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Quoted from an unknown FReeper:

“Remember that it's those that will not take responsibility for their own children today that want you to take responsibility for something someone else’s forefathers did generations ago... “

44 posted on 11/09/2012 6:51:58 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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REPOST: A white man asked his black friend Are you going to vote for BARACK OBAMA just because he's black? The black man responded by saying "why not?" In this country men are pulled over by police because they are BLACK,

False at the specific data level. False generalization.

passed over promotion just because they are BLACK;

False generalization. The reverse might be true, in the data margins.

considered to be criminals just because they are BLACK;

False. False generalization.

Thousands of white voters are not voting for him because he's BLACK!...

Perhaps true. But this number is much smaller than those who voted for him because of, or in larger part because of, his race.

But you don't seem to have a problem with any of that!

I have great problems with your false claims of fact and faulty analysis.

This country was built with the sweat and tears of BLACK slaves

True up to a point in size and time. It is false to say slaves built even .1 percent of the wealth and economy we see today. Blacks built perhaps ten percent of what we have today. American chattel slavery was evil, disgraceful, and every other bad thing you'd like me to say about it. But we've already debated this and we agree.... Furthermore, Jim Crow was also evil, disgraceful, and every other bad thing you'd like me to say about it. But this ended legally in the mid-1960's and in the vast majority of hearts and souls sometime during the 1970's. You can put your race card away. It is you who has become the racist.

and now a BLACK man has a chance to lead the same country where we weren't even considered as people;

"As a people? As humans equivalent in innate dignity and worth as whites?" False today. Not generally true today. Not generally true for signicant numbers of whites since the 1940s and perhaps earlier.

where we weren't even allowed to be educated,

Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.

drink from the same fountains,

Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.

eat in the same restaurants,

Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.

or use the same restrooms

Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.

or even VOTE.

Overcome by events. False today and false in your lifetime.

So YES I am going to vote for him! But its not because he's BLACK, but because through his leadership several of America's most elusive enemies were brought to justice,

To some extent yes. But to no greater extent than was already on course to happen. In the mean time, he has been negligent as new Islamic ebemies have formed and strengthened.

our economy, health and environment has improved;

Absolutely False. False or marginal. False or marginal.

and our good reputation around the world has been restored.

Our reputation has improved in the eyes of those around the world detest the U.S. and U.S. power and principles of liberty and justice. Those who look to us as a model of liberty and as a vehicle for liberation are more afraid.

He is HOPE.

Glittering generality and Kool-Aid.

He is CHANGE.

You are seeing him as Messianic. You are deluded.

He is WISE.

False. He is a Progressive, a Marxist, and a slick wannabe tyrant.

He is a man of INTEGRITY

Perhaps at a personal level. At the political level he is a shrewd politician who uses all the instruments of non-violent power, both ethical and deceitful.

and INTELLIGENCE.

Not more so than the typical man of achievement.

He is a man of FAITH

He may have made some profession of faith to the true Christ. He claims to have. He is nevertheless a Progressive ideologist first and foremost. This is antithetical to Christianity. He is also sympathetic to Islam, which is in doctrine and in practice hostile to U.S. Constitutional liberty and to Christian faith.

and PERSEVERANCE.

Definitely true.

A man of MATURITY

At a personal level, probably.

and GOOD JUDGEMENT.

On matters of economics and state, false.

He is a faithful HUSBAND and FATHER.

True

And he allows me to understand when my grandchildren desire to be President when they grow up, its not a fairy tale but a short term goal.

This was achieved sometime in the 1970's.

They now see, understand and know that they can achieve, withstand, and do ANYTHING that they can dream for themselves.

... So NO I am not voting for him because he's BLACK.....I'm VOTING for him because I'M BLACK.....

Oh pulease. Get over it. Your race card is old, worn out, and hasn't been accepted here since about 1975. Your race-baiting makes you a racist. Go away. Get away from me Satan.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 7:06:17 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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Thousands of white voters are not voting for him because he's BLACK!

Thousands, if not millions of white people did vote for him, again, specifically because he is black.

They've been cowed by decades of political correctness and accusations of inherent racism and manufactured guilt. Any questioning of Obama's presidential qualifications or performance is immediately met with charges of "RACISM!!!".

Voting for Obama is their penance.

Very much like the story of the "Emperor's New Clothes", they all agree with the crowd what a great president he is, what a good job he's doing, what a shame it is that he was saddled with so many problems.

None of them have the courage of an innocent observer to point out: "Hey, he doesn't have any clothes". Or in this case: "Hey, he's a pretty crappy president and this country is in a shambles".

All through the election, I kept hearing: "No president has ever won re-election with an unemployment rate above 7.2%", or "No president has every won re-election because of X, or Y, or Z".

I always immediately thought: "No president has ever been the beneficiary of this much manufactured national guilt and political correctness".

So, yes, he was elected because of racism, but you can't pin it all on black voters.

48 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:23 AM PST by Washi (Look on the bright side: the world is scheduled to end on Dec. 21st.)
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"I will say that my friends would not cast me as racist for my responses. Their friends most likely would because that is just how it rolls sometimes, but I know that the strength of relationship is more powerful than words on a forum."

Who gives a damn about being called a racist? I couldn't care less.

49 posted on 11/09/2012 7:33:05 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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It proves that there are indeed two Americas.

Yes I post this (below) often. Because I really believe it. It's from Abraham Lincoln in 1854 I believe -- and it is not intended to suggest civil war. My preference has always been a modern American "Man on Horseback" to restore our Constitution and rid our Republic of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their bratty ideological issue. I honestly began to believe this in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Though I am not thinking of the civil rights movement of the 1960s when I speak of campus Marxist-Alinsky radical, spoiled brats the extremists in the civil rights movement could be just as violent and anti-American.

I remember.

The 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever!. They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.

They hijacked the now defunct Democratic Party in the 1970s. The fault is ours. Abe will explain from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Obama is a biological-ideological issue of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats.

50 posted on 11/09/2012 7:40:50 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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So...much...stupidity...need....air......:::cough, cough:::

My response to that person is that I would print out a copy of those words and show them to him again in 2016.


51 posted on 11/09/2012 7:44:49 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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My response? I think this fellow ought to be allowed to worship in private so I’ll close the door and leave him to his prayers to his god.


52 posted on 11/09/2012 8:05:56 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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IMO blacks have suffered terribly under 0bama and democrats

Look at black unemployment, illiteracy, incarceration, dropout rates, black-on-black crime, illegitemacy, etc etc.

If there is a measurable social pathology in this country blacks are at or near the top. and that has only worsened over the last four years.

What indications are there that this will improve in the next four? None. Blacks and the poor have suffered more under 0bama that anyone else and will continue to.

Denigrating and taxing the "rich" is not an economic plan.

Raising taxes on "carbon" will not promote business expansion.

Printing ever more monopoly money will not boost anyones income or savings.

Beleive me will soon look at 2012 as the end of the golden age and I don't care what color you are.

54 posted on 11/09/2012 8:26:25 AM PST by Pietro
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On questions like traffic stops, mortgage loans, etc, simply show the rate for Asians.

Evidently cops, bankers, schools, etc, are racist against blacks AND whites, because the numbers always favor Asians.

Never stop with just black and white, always remember to throw in the Asian statistics, they destroy the race theme.


55 posted on 11/09/2012 10:20:39 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was not the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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