Posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:07 AM PST by SJackson
You're confusing a symptom with the problem. The media and their allies did a hatchet job on Romney worse than on Palin. We had wall-to-wall ads paid for by planned parenthood (your tax dollars at work) of women moaning about how evil and untrustworthy Romney is. Any kind of conservatism will be attacked no matter what who delivers the message or how. The problem is not the persons we nominate, the problem is the enemy using our tax money to attack us.
“Even gay marriage won last night.”
This is one of the most astounding results to me. To think that no state had done this before, and even as recently as earlier this year the people of N.C. soundly rejected gay marriage. Then last night, 4 state all approve gay marriage. How quickly we have slouched into Gomorrah...
The third alternative is that the country got inundated with anti-Romney propaganda and enough people believed it. After Obama lost the first debate Axelrod came out the next day and said Romney is a liar. The news media picked up on it as "can Romney be trusted". Then in Virginia we got nonstop ads by planned parenthood against Romney "can he be trusted, he won't fix the economy, etc etc" Our tax money at work, every 10 minutes on the country music station. My mailbox had several anti-Romney fliers a day.
In my rural area the fat ugly chicks came out in droves for Obama. I asked a woman in my van what did Romney lie about (after I overheard her saying he lies). She had no answer, just "he lies". We are up against the forces of evil with unlimited funding preying on the stupid. The best we can hope for is that the stupid people get bored and stay home.
Pile it higher and deeper! Romney ran on a conservative and traditional American values agenda. He lost. That's all there is to that.
Stop blaming the candidate, the blame lies with the voters. They bought Obama's campaign of fear, they believe our misery is still Bush's fault, they believe Obama just needs a little more time to get America back on track and he's the first black POTUS in history.
No candidate could overcome the wildcard of that last fact.
The character of the electorate is also changing and radical racist elements stubbornly refuse to learn the hard lessons of the CA GOP. We must learn from history or be doomed to repeat it. Immigration MUST be reformed but in a way that there is outreach and understanding.
It could already be too late but that's no reason not to try. We need to marginalize and resist the crazies.
Not in Virginia. What got him elected here is simply millions of dollars of ads paid with our tax money (Planned Parenthood) spreading lies and innuendo about Romney. That triggered the stupid people (women and effeminate men) to line up for hours for Obama. Hispanics too. It's amusing to hear about how the lines and turnout were good for Romney. Not a chance. We were badly outspent here and it shows.
Not a chance. The Planned Parenthood ads here in Virginia (every 10 minutes on the country music station) painted Romney as right wing (and "untrustworthy"). The fact is that any R candidate would have lost here.
Article is BS
Conservatism is dead. People have rejected the rights ideology and belief system.
Plain and simple. If the Republicans toss up some more conservative candidates then they will lose by even bigger margins.
The nation has changed. Whether we like it or not. America is not the same as she was 20 years ago. Heck - 10 years ago.
The post 9-11 world has arrived.
If the Republicans think that Mitt lost because he wasn’t conservative enough then they are blind and fooling themselves.
I don’t know what options remain on the table for Republicans. Not many. Just the reality.
Enjoy life - enjoy what we have now. It is only a matter of time before the whole system comes crashing down. There is nothing - short of a civil war (which is laughable and not going to happen) that will stop what is coming.
Eat - drink - be merry.
I'm afraid you are right from everything I have seen here in Virginia.
I hate to think that's my only choice. The two party system is long gone, there are two halves of one party spending the country into ruin. One President gave us enough growth (with help from Volker) to keep the boom going for a couple of decades. Now we are post boom. A mighty country like ours will take decades to disintegrate but we can no longer grow out of the debt that we have piled up. Hyper-inflation, default, war, maybe a combination of those.
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
I get it, you’re willing to fund with taxpayer dollars abortion and birth control now how is that fiscal Conservatism? That’s embracing the greater evil- liberalism. What next are you willing to concede to the Democrats, tax policy because you can’t be bothered to explain how low taxes helps rise all economically?
Romney will win many more states than McCain. He ran a good race and just needed Ohio and Pennsylvania to win the whole thing, assuming Florida comes in on the final count, as a Romney win.
No other candidate with the will and the money, would have done better.
The deck is stacked against any GOP candidate. Unless the Dems run a Gore or Kerry, the MSM and the Dem money will win.
What you say about the Senate is true, though not all Tea Party candidates failed. IMO in retrospect, I thought Romney won it, the issues should have been addressed more directly. And lots of those positions were Tea Party positions. They simply weren't elucidated in simple terms.
You can't, but Romney got about 2.3 million fewer votes that McCain (The One was down 9 million). Who stayed home, GOP rank and file or Royalty? Stupid decision either way. A shame they stayed home.
Col West was a painful loss, as, imo was George Allen’s loss. Future leaders.
And yours is odd. You’ll have to forgive my disappointment: I have only waited four years to be rid of that miserable amateur and now we have four more years in front of us. What have you done for this country and this fight -other than accuse fellow creepers of “trollishness”?
The lesson here is that Conservatism is too hard, therefore surrender and be a liberal like all the Mitt and Christie apologists.
No, two months ago there were multiple paths. And if Mitt had attacked on the issues, and won, the credit wouldn't have gone to the Tea Party. Which today, unlike 2010, is a phantom. Not a criticism of that phantom, but if perhaps there was a grassroots uprising continuing this year, things would have been different.
Perhaps I'm an optimist, but I think you're wrong, I don't think self interest was the defining issue, an issue, but it can be overcome. Don't ask me to name the primary candidate that would have done it, I don't know. In retrospect perhaps none of the canditates could have overcome the Axelrod-Obama hate campaign.
Irrespective of FR differences, yes, he was a good man. As was GWB and McCain. Not sure any of them engaged on character issues, which they could have done short of the libel/slander which has characterized the left. A rather sad commentary.
IMO there were some message issues, but as I noted Romney got 2.3 million fewer votes than McCain, not as severe a drop as Obama. But Tea Party rallies with buses standing by to take folk for early voting, I guess that's logistics. Effective, maybe, maybe those folk voted anyway. But if the McCain voters had all showed up it would have been close, include non-McCain Tea Partiers, a win.
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