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1 posted on 11/03/2012 9:14:23 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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Freepers, This is truly a concern for our side. Hispanics can be a natural part of the conservative constituency but, until we get an immigration reform bill, they will bt default vote democrat. So, I don’t give a crap who wins the presidency this Tuesday, before the next midterms we have to have immigration reform.

Now, I’m not talking about Amnesty and call it good. I’m talking about real reform that basically makes woking in this country illegally an absolute impossibility and that also punishes employers for cheating. This will probably give rise to higher food prices, hotel bills, construction cost but, it is absolutely worth it. Plus, it will end the exploitation of low wage workers which is how it should be sold politically.

At this time, we have some leverage to shape the bill. If we let Texas get over run by illegals the game will be up. The Dems will be like the PRI in Mexico. Open borders!! I’m being totally serious. We can’t let this skip through another legislation session. We must take a stand before we get buried politically.


65 posted on 11/03/2012 10:17:17 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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Who would have thought the US would have elected a mixed race halfKenyan, half American ex Indonesian citizen communist Muslim/Christian/atheist in 2008?


71 posted on 11/03/2012 10:38:02 AM PDT by petitfour
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This is pretty much hooey from the get-go.

To start with, ethnically Mexican voters are not monolithic, and the more successful they are as American citizens, the more likely they are to vote Republican. They are integrating faster than is typical for immigrants traditionally.

The Bush family found allegiance with RINO Republicans by asserting that the Republicans would only attract ethnic Mexicans by being more centrist and liberal. In fact, the opposite is true. Ethnic Mexicans are attracted to the Republican party out of conservative and religious values, not a sense of moderation or liberalness.

Texas is the biggest “melting pot” for ethnic Mexicans of any of the border states. In California they segregate into ethnic communities, but in Texas they integrate with Anglos and find opportunity much faster.

The top issues for ethnic Mexicans in Texas are also unexpected. The number 1 issue is children’s education. Second and third were excessive federal spending and cuts to *Medicare*. Importantly, *not* Medicaid, but Medicare.

Number four was immigration, but not what you might imagine. The specifics of immigration policies are not that big a deal. What does get their attention is that if immigration policies racially disdain ethnic Mexicans. They deeply resent “demonizing” ethnic Mexicans, illegal or legal, when immigration is discussed.

This is a clear and easy to understand message to Republicans. Keep the immigration debate objective, and do not express what can be thought of as racist disdain for Hispanics. Which is not unreasonable.

The Republicans do have to overcome a lot of Democrat propaganda that they are racists and anti-Hispanic; but most are persuaded far more by deeds than words, and if Republicans behave themselves and stick to conservatism, Hispanics will increasingly embrace them.


73 posted on 11/03/2012 11:01:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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Jeb Bush is an a$$hole!


74 posted on 11/03/2012 11:08:56 AM PDT by jakota (jakota)
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville
77 posted on 11/03/2012 11:16:00 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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The last time Texas voted for the democrat for President was in 1976 and that was Jimmy Carter. In total since 1900 Texas has voted Republican 16 times out of 28 elections. The demographics of Texas is changing from within and from outside the US. At some point but I don’t think it will be 2016 Texas will be up for grabs by the democratic party. JMO.


78 posted on 11/03/2012 11:30:11 AM PDT by deport
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Pandering never works. The GOP can never compete with the Dems by offering more free stuff and privileges to special ethnic groups even if some of the rinos want to. There is simply no substitute for liberty.


83 posted on 11/03/2012 12:08:29 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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There is for all intents and purposes, no Democrat Party in Texas!


84 posted on 11/03/2012 12:20:58 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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