Posted on 10/29/2012 8:54:34 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
Unless they send you to Libya.
We had a group waiting to go at Aviano. I dunno why they were never sent.
They were never sent because somebody issued an order for them to stand down.
I hope nobody takes my post as criticism of the troops that didn’t show up. I have no doubt they are even more angry about being forced to abandon fellow Americans than I am.
First....I’m former AF (SAC aircraft commander) and the son of a career SAC MSgt. Still bleed blue. AF Academy grad, etc.
That said....let me first say that I’ve had the utmost respect and admiration for SEALs, Delta, Special Forces (aka Green Berets), et al my entire life. An amazing collection of serious men with serious training who do superhuman things around the world.
The PJ’s are relatively unknown to most civilians, and they’re every bit the equals of SEALs. Their training is nothing short of brutal. They are amazing physical specimens, to a man. Incredible abilities.....yet, as the article points out so well, their primary purpose is to save lives rather than take them (but by God, get in their way as a bad guy as they’re on a mission and yer ass is going straight to Hell).
It’s not as sexy as the SEALs’ well-deserved “get in, get it done, get out without being seen or heard” image of Ultimate Warriors who will take on all comers in the night, granted. Still....I put these guys on the top pedestal of the upper tier of America’s Elite.
God bless ‘em....God bless ‘em all. High time they get proper recognition for what they do.
Ping
What are we doing there? What is the goal? If there is no objective, then we are just getting our guys killed for nothing. Somebody had better decide exactly what winning is in Afghanistan.
I read a book about them many years ago and they are indeed the equals if not more of the SEALS. They go through the same training program as the SEALS and Green Berets while also getting medical training. They must do much of their training while carrying a heavy mannequin to simulate extracting wounded. They practice medical procedures like catheterization ON EACH OTHER! They are trained to be dropped into hot spots where Special Ops personnel are wounded and fight their way out. There were several stories of PJs being dropped onto snowy mountains or the Grand Canyon, in some cases to rescue civilian air crash victims, and were FORGOTTEN! They had to survive their way out with the victims. At the time the book was written, probably 25 years ago, there were only 300 PJs. Making them the most elite force in the U.S. Those guys ROCK!
There is no plan to win there. On this, I agree with Obama. Obama has no plan, so get us out of there.
Agreed and enough said except that these guys are involved in the escape and evasion schools. Pilots say they never want to meet them again but if they have to they will be saved or these guys will die trying. So far as I know, they never buy a drink when pilots are around.
Their training is brutal. Many are guys who grew up in the woods hunting and fishing from as soon as they could walk. They are smart and would be at the top of any class they choose. They are formidable in every way. They are little known but probably the best in multiple skills in the same package that we have. One-on-one I doubt many or any could match them.
We used to have a lot more people in this country that hated losing but not like these guys hate losing.
Now we seem to have mostly losers in this country.
This is Obozo's war. He couldn't wait to get more troops in there. He likes to play CIC but has no clue & also has no problem giving Rules Of Engagement to make sure they don't win.
Agree with Him? He's not pulling them out to save them...He wants the glory to brag about ending the Iraq war, along with this one.
He's a cheap trick scumbag who belongs in jail.
Onhis first trip, they had to pick up dead pilot & live pilot hiding in the rocks. Ended up getting pinned down there for 6 hours, pavehawk had to leave them there with the local villagers looking to make their acquaintance; pretty spooky getting hunted down I'd think. Anyway, there was a write up in AF times Bagram a couple years back. I posted site back then on here.
Anyway, nothing but respect for those PJs. Ya know, my nephew brought up a Scar 308 last Spring for bear, I liked it so much I got one this fall. And to think I've been carrying that AR-10 around moose hunting, the Scar is a featherlight.
Kudos to the PJs, they are the best.
I just moved back up here.
obozo never had any intention of winning the Afcrapistan war against his mohammaden brothers. He has ended that war and iraq by surrendering. When he was annointed he didn’t meet with his general for 6 mos. Then when told that 80,000 troops were needed to avoid failure he sent 30,000. His ROEs have tied our guys’ hands behind their backs leaving them sitting ducks and casualties have skyrocketed.
Are you in Anch? We live up on the Yukon, near the border. You might know my Nephew, Bill. They send him to schools all the time all over the place. Those PJs are well trained beyond belief. Nephew is super blown out, into body building, strong as an ox. I thought he was going to take off running with that moose hind over his shoulder ha ha. Back in 1970, my number was 31, had me going to Ft Dix on 2nd of January, ha ha; and they never sent me to any schools, ha.
No. Eielson.
The Nephew spends about a week a month up in Fairbanks, mostly in Anch; they keep them busy flying all over Alaska. Heck I’m just glad I got a relative in Alaska now.
Ouch! Well you must have been lucky in love!
AMEN
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