Posted on 09/27/2012 6:57:34 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
It already is. It's played at every sporting event, wedding and graduation party in the NYC area.
It's taken over the role of Sinatra's "New York New York."
There was the Beatles featuring Billy Preston for “Get Back” on the singles sleeve of the record...but that was an extreme rarity. Capitol also had The Beatles featuring Tony Sheridan, but they were designed to cash in on a flooded market of product, even if the Beatles were merely the backing band of Sheridan for a session in Germany.
Seriously? Have you even tried to look up adults'/parents' responses to Elvis back in the day? I'd say "raunchy" certainly came up.
Look, the point is that too many people still confuse quality with taste. If you don't like the entire genre, then rap is clearly not your taste and you have no basis from which to judge its quality.
It's really no different than a punk teenager on a skateboard saying, "Classical? Opera?? They SUCK!" Well, he has no way to judge the quality of classical or opera music, because he obviously hates both generes in totality. Works the same way in either direction.
To those who can't stand rap, great! Admit that you don't like rap. Leave it at that. It's pointless noise to compare two genres of music, since the differences are inherently a matter of musical taste!
No popular MC today thinks that getting shot is fashionable.
Maybe I should have said ‘black acts that play or front actual instruments/musicians’ instead of rock acts. Of course this also trends with other types of popular music now, like dance/teeny/bubblegum, I suppose. I only know Living Colour from their hit, also know a little bit about Vernon Reid as a good guitarist, better than most of the crap being played at the time in my opinion.
I think I saw a documentary, the Electric Purgatory(?) about the struggles of black rock acts, seem to remember most of them blaiming the industry for only signing hip hop acts, bemoaning the fact that that if one was black you better have at least aspects of hip hop to make it, and it was actually harder if you played something. One guy was talking about the lack of black bands on major labels that play instruments, the guy with an afro from Roots maybe?
Freegards
I was once working the reference desk at a public library when a girl asked me for books about "Fifty Cent, the rapper." Knowing virtually nothing about contemporary rap music, I was at first confused--I thought she must be asking about a candy wrapper or something like that which offered a 50-cent discount on a service such as a video rental. I became even more confused as she tried for several minutes to explain what she wanted. Eventually, it dawned on me that she was asking about a rapper, not a wrapper, and that Fifty Cent was his stage name, so I sent her over to the books on rap criticism.
Ah, yes. ?uestlove.
The thing is, there is no real tradition of "bands" in the "rock band" sense in black culture.
There were bandleaders (Ellington, Basie, Mingus) and there are instrumentalists who went from bandleader to bandleader, and there were label "house bands" (the Funk Brothers at Motown, the Hi Rhythm Section at Hi Records, the Memphis Horns and the MGs at Stax, the Swampers at Muscle Shoals, etc.) - but groups were traditionally singing groups.
The Temptations, the Coasters, the Chi-Lites, the Four Tops, the Impressions, the Spinners, the Delphonics, the O'Jays, etc. were vocalists who sang songs written by other people.
They did not compose and instrumentally perform songs they way a rock band does.
Rapper Shot - Chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-25/news/chi-five-people-reported-shot-in-west-pullman-20120925_1_west-pullman-aspiring-rapper-sister
Rapper Shot - Kansas City
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19625104/gunfight-leaves-young-area-rapper-dead-in-kansas-city-ks
KC Rapper charged with killing rival
http://www.ksallink.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=23811&format=html
Rapper Shot - Pittsburgh, CALIFORNIA
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/police-identify-third-suspect-pittsburg-rappers-sl/nSMPB/
That wasn’t an insult, it was an honest and truthful observation.
If one is unable to discern the cultural difference between Elvis Presley and the thug Lil’ Wayne, they are devoid of good reason.
Good night, little one.
That’s true about vocalists, but when they played live they had a band, even if it was only backing their performance. Plus, there were acts like Sly and other funky stuff who played. But you are right about their not being a large tradition of it.
Freegards
NYC. That explains it.
Name one big MC of the past 10 years - other than 50 Cent - who boasts about getting shot. (Actually he mentions it, but not really in a boastful way.)
Getting shot is for wannabes, like those unknowns in your links.
One out of 10 Americans live in the NYC metro area.
And about one out of three people living in the NYC metro area deliberately moved there from somewhere else.
If it's a classic in the de facto capital of the world, it's a classic.
Yes, and my parents hated rock and roll as well. But my father (he’s almost 93) finally admitted the Beatles wrote a lot of good songs. And I’ll admit that a lot of rock is awful. So, I’ll ask you then: Do you think Elvis has more talent than Lil Wayne?
There were a lot of black combo bands, including Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five, Sammy Franklin & the Atomics, Jimmy Liggins & His Drops of Joy, Joe Liggins & the Honeydrippers, Jackie Brenston & His Delta Cats, Stick McGhee & His Buddies, and Little Richard & the Band.
Little Richard's Band featured different musicians in almost every tour.
There was no "John Paul George and Ringo" dynamic in any of Hess combos.
Booker T & the MG's was a "black" band--although I'm not sure all of its members were black--that as far as I know had only one member leave from 1962, when it formed until it broke up in 1973.
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