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T. Boone Pickens throws in the towel on NAT GAS
Hot Air ^ | Sept.1,2012 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 09/01/2012 6:38:40 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Titus-Maximus
The government does not allow compressed natural gas stored in the home - this makes no sense since they allow a 3600 PSI tank to be in your car in your garage.

It makes a lot of sense to me. I work in the oil/gas industry and I value the lives of my family.

If they allowed you to fill a tank in your home, you could migrate the gas to your car in minutes.

And just how do you think that magic would occur? Do you have a compressor of a couple thousand horsepower or do you already have the gas storage of thousands of pounds of pressure in your house?

Natural gas does not have to be refined,

It has too be processed. Wellhead natural gas contains many contaminants that have to be removed to become pipeline/consumer quality gas.

http://www.naturalgas.org/naturalgas/production.asp

Natural Gas is a good energy source, very cost effective but let us not pretend it is magic.

41 posted on 09/02/2012 8:35:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Very good info. Thanks!

“Natural gas does not have to be refined”, technically correct although usually NG requires cleaning up to remove all the other fluids and gasses that come out of the ground with methane.

The renewable landfill methane gas includes significant quantities of H2S and water moisture which require more cleaning than in-ground NG.

Many of us living rural do not have NG piped to us, maybe someday as its only about a mile up the road. 8 hour refill time overnight is no worse than a damn electric that’ll only go 40 miles.

Many of us rural folks are stuck with propane which price fluctuates significantly and is not unusually subject to local supplier gouging. Propane pricing runs up due to price of gasoline (used to boost octane), winter usage run-up and now the proposed use of propane for shale fracing fluid. Otherwise it would be practically equal to NG for transportation.


42 posted on 09/02/2012 8:36:09 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: thackney

No one is saying its magic.

Engineers have told me there is no difference in safety between allowing a CNG tank in your car stored in your garage, and having a tank in your home. So if the government says it is safe enough to have in your car - where you drive around at high speeds on a highway, and then store it in your garage, it should be safe enough to put it underground and at a higher pressure. (Natural gas is safer than gasoline for driving!)

Compressors are expensive - but GE is now working on one for the home and they will bring the price way down. This is already happening.

Processing natural gas, is no where near the cost of refining oil, and no where near the environmental nightmare of building a refinery. To say those things are equivalent is totally wrong!


43 posted on 09/03/2012 6:48:42 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus
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The concern is not the tank with no moving parts, but the compressor with a rotating seal.


44 posted on 09/03/2012 7:18:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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