Posted on 08/28/2012 3:39:34 AM PDT by rickmichaels
LOL!!!
My kids were all taught about evolution because it's out there and they would encounter it.
And they're all creationists and this is out of an engineer and two physics majors. And they have a really good handle scientifically on WHY evolution cannot work.
Then keep evolution out. Why should one parties creation account have precedence over any others?
Well, sure, MrB. Dontcha know what a mess this country was until the atheistic liberals came along at the end of the last century to straighten out the mess the Founding Fathers made of the US?
You didn't really just say that, did you?
God help us if there are more people like you in positions of power in this country. We're in worse shape than I thought if that's the case.
Why not?
What about the “scientifically literate” people that reject evolution and - gasp! - believe in creationism?
Oh, yes. I remember now. They lose their teaching or research jobs and prestige schools try to revoke their credentials. I guess creationism must be like a disease that the herd must be isolated from or it will spread.
Yes. Ignorant people like you ought to be locked up and kept away from the enlightened masses pouring from the public education system where truth is taught daily and in great detail. Our present society owes a great deal to clear thinking evolutionary thought and we can all look forward to a brighter tomorrow once folks like you are culled from the herd.
BINGO!
BTW, I congratulate you on producing such fine scientific illiterates.
Um, no. Neither were Galilean mathematics. Galileo made it point to belittle and insult his indulgent patron over about a matter which he clearly did not understand. Galileo was not a mathematical astronomer. I truly believe that without the Vatican trial, Galileo would be a minor figure in the history of science, inferior probably to Edmund Halley or even Robert Hook.
If it’s true that belief in creationism hinders scientific advance and progress, then any scientific progress should not have even been possible before Darwin proposed his theory.
The fact that it did gives lie to the claim they make that creationism harms scientific advance and will send us back into the Dark Ages.
You know perfectly well that it is highly unlikely that I'm going to embrace any anti-science, no matter how strongly some people feel that to accept the scientific view is to reject Jesus and the promise of redemption. So why do you ping me to this?
As to the "greatest scientific progress" made in this country, I think that's a matter of opinion. Personally, I think the greatest advances have been in medicine, where people live longer, healthier lives than ever before. Women no longer commonly die from childbirth; people no longer have to have ten children in the hopes that a couple will live to adulthood. None of these medical advances would have been possible without the theoretical framework of evolution showing us how all life is related, so that we can do the research. Darwin, of course, did not invent evolution; he was, like many others, an observer of it. He didn't even formulate the first or only theory to try to explain evolution; his theory was the best one at the time, in that it allowed for scientists to make testable predictions that were borne out experimentally.
A person who believes that the stories in Genesis are literal accounts simply cannot be a scientist. The only way someone can maintain their belief that the earth is flat, the sun orbits the earth, the stars are fixed in some sort of solid shell, and that plants and animals sprang forth from the dirt fully formed is by closing their eyes and mind to anything that contradicts the Biblical description. That person is simply incapable of embracing science in any form. That does not mean that people who reject the literal interpretation of Genesis are all atheists; they are not. But they understand that the message of the Bible is metaphorical and, indeed, is meant to be understood as metaphorical.
Truly you have lifted my spirits today.
May God ever bless you! [And me. And all who read these lines.]
No matter how many political ballots were burned to select him, the Pope had no more business issuing edicts on natural matters like celestial mechanics than the politician-appointed SCOTUS had in declaring CO2 a pollutant. Both were acting outside their respective spheres of expertise and authority.
The Pope never issued an edict on celestial mechanics and as I stated previously, the Vatican, probably lead by the Jesuits who were crytpoheliocentrists, explicitly avoided the controversy. There were forces in the Vatican working to reconcile Catholic doctrine with heliocentricism. They saw Galileo as bull in a china shop. They knew the arguments and mathematics of heliocentricism better than he did, but they wanted to advance the ideas without creating any unnecessary confrontations and without confusing the laity. Martin Luther was on the record as condemning heliocentricism as sinful heresy, while the Vatican never spoke on the issue.
Galileo just had a way of making enemies and playing martyr for science. I suppose by forcing the issue he did manage to embarrass the Church for going on half a millennium. The Church never really requited his bile. He was treaty humanely while in house arrest and the Vatican has since cleared him. What he did may be seen as suffering for advancement of Truth and Science, but others see it as rank egotism and arrogance, which harmed an institution and individuals that had treated him very well.
I yield to your better-researched (or indoctrinated) grasp of the matter...
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Oh my betty, you really dont know me, nor what or how much I know about the subject matter at hand. Ironically, you sound much like Bill Nye there. My kids are fine, more than fine, but thanks for the concern. God bless you.
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