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Using Semantics to Take Down Conservative Representative Todd Akin
Townhall.com ^ | August 26, 2012 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 08/26/2012 4:55:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yep, he could be no more helpful to the Dim causes if they were paying him. FUTA Be objective enough to realize that you macacaed yourself and GTFO!


101 posted on 08/26/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: Kaslin
Don't you think it is up to the voters of MO if they want to vote for Akin and not to you?

That is a stunning and disturbing comment coming from you. WTH do you expect? You post an article and then get "OPINIONS" on a political forum Gee, who could have seen that coming? So I have two questions for you: A: why do you take a criticism of an article you POSTED but did not write personally? B: Do I lose my right to COMMENT on who the folks of MO voted for? Or do I have to live in Missouri to do that? C: Will the Missouri Senator impact us outside of MO? D: Is it not relevant that MO DEMOCRATS voted in the GOP primary? Ok, so got on a roll and had four questions for you. Answer is you can.

102 posted on 08/26/2012 9:22:58 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: philman_36
Since you haven't stated it then I'd sure like to hear your opinion on what you think she was trying to accomplish.

Really? You need help on this one?

103 posted on 08/26/2012 9:24:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: Uncle Chip

I said what I said. I don’t particularly see the relevance of the term “footsie” here and it is not a choice of words I would have used. I would only say that she deployed psychological operations with the GOP base and I am totally stunned to see how well it worked - including here.


104 posted on 08/26/2012 9:26:51 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: nonliberal

You as an Iowan have no right to tell him what he has to do. That is up to the voters in MO and if they don’t want him they will not vote for him


105 posted on 08/26/2012 9:29:12 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

106 posted on 08/26/2012 9:36:25 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: peyton randolph

She is an attorney, but I can not find anything about the State Bar of AZ’s decision to suspend her license for unethical conduct or anything else


107 posted on 08/26/2012 9:38:02 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I don't think anyone watching her commercials was left out in the dark as to who she wanted her opponent to be. But that doesn't mean that those who voted for him did so because of her commercials.

As a matter of fact many voted for the other candidates because of her commercials. It was not a secret that was not discussed by political pundits in Missouri and not known to voters.

Heck look at Obama and Romney. Obama got the opponent he wanted, didn't he???

108 posted on 08/26/2012 9:46:18 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JediJones

In his first debate with McCaskill, I’d tell Akin to say this for his closing statement:

“A vote for McCaskill is a vote for Obamacare. If you vote for McCaskill you’re even stupider than I am.”

I never said I was a campaign manager.


109 posted on 08/26/2012 10:16:48 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Uncle Chip; Admin Moderator
The only pathetic thing here was your post and, of course, your pretentious screen name.

Thank you Chipster, may I have another? And thank you for not making our difference of opinion 'personal'.

For the record, as my Homepage points out (when I joined, the only thing I thought I would ever post about was Terri Schiavo. Silly me. Politics brings out the little devil in me I guess), my 'pretentious' screenname was selected (with very personal reasons) without thinking of years down the road and how the name could be perceived.

That said, if the mods could change my screename to 'iseekandfailconstantlytobeaservantofthecross' I would be most appreciative.

110 posted on 08/26/2012 10:59:15 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeminoleCounty

We meet again.

Thank you very much :)


111 posted on 08/26/2012 12:04:43 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Not necessarily - depends on which faction of the Obama camp you are talking about. They did get the one they thought they would get, but that’s not the same thing.


112 posted on 08/26/2012 12:24:35 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: JediJones

It is the logical inference. He takes the position that a woman forcibly raped won’t conceive because of the extreme stress. Therefore, if a woman conceives after an alleged rape it must not have been all that stressful for her - ie. she must have enjoyed it.

That is beyond a an awkward sentence. That is a monstrous insult to every woman ever put through this nightmare.


113 posted on 08/26/2012 12:25:14 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Kaslin
You as an Iowan have no right to tell him what he has to do. That is up to the voters in MO and if they don’t want him they will not vote for him

But the huge hole in your rather shallow argument is that as a Senator from Missouri, Claire McCaskill can damned sure tell the poster from Iowa what to do - which at least reason number three that your line of argument here is rather pathetic.

114 posted on 08/26/2012 12:27:40 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Do a Google search on “stress infertility”. The poor guy is getting a bum rap."

Amazing how unpopular the facts have become. We got about thirty medical einsteins here who say the facts don't even merit attention. Who cares about science, when you can beat up on some inarticulate conservative and feel all righteous about yourself?

115 posted on 08/26/2012 12:38:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kaslin; All
Akin took himself down. No one did it to him.

We learned in new MO polling data posted yesterday...

-- Republicans want him to withdraw, 47 percent to 37 percent.

-- Independents want him to withdraw, 57 percent to 25 percent.

-- Undecided voters, by a 67 percent to 16 percent margin, want him to withdraw.

And ONLY Democrats favor him staying in the race.

116 posted on 08/26/2012 12:40:55 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 71 days away.)
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To: DManA
It is the logical inference. He takes the position that a woman forcibly raped won’t conceive because of the extreme stress. Therefore, if a woman conceives after an alleged rape it must not have been all that stressful for her - ie. she must have enjoyed it.

So you don't understand the difference between something that's "rare" and something that "won't" happen? Because it's a huge, monumental difference. Since he said it's "rare," there is absolutely no room to assume based on what he said that a woman who got pregnant from rape is lying. It's your own fault if you erroneously assume that when someone tells you about a rare event, you don't believe it actually happened just because it's rare. Rare events occur. That's why they're called "rare" as opposed to non-existent. Even some women's health-type centers point to pregnancy as occurring in 5% of rapes (not sure if they included consensual statutory rape in that or not). You can debate whether 5% is "rare" or not, but it is universally agreed that the vast majority of rapes don't result in pregnancy. So let's stop this shallow, wrong analysis based on a misunderstanding of the definition of words.

117 posted on 08/26/2012 12:44:32 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: DManA

“It is the logical inference. He takes the position that a woman forcibly raped won’t conceive because of the extreme stress. Therefore, if a woman conceives after an alleged rape it must not have been all that stressful for her - ie. she must have enjoyed it.”

This IS the point!!! There is no other way to take any other inference from the two statements: Legitimate rape and the reproductive system will shutdown.

What he said is what he truly believed.

When taken together, it is an ignorant chauvinistic belief.


118 posted on 08/26/2012 12:46:19 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: JediJones

Please explain to me why the relative rate of pregnancy after a rape is relevant to the topic of Federal abortion policy?


119 posted on 08/26/2012 12:58:35 PM PDT by DManA
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To: JediJones

“So let’s stop this shallow, wrong analysis based on a misunderstanding of the definition of words.”

Ok, how do you tie the words “illegitimate” and “forcible” as having the same meaning without also inferring that there are a lot of women out there who are claiming rape falsely to justify an abortion.

Not don’t take me to the woodshed on that precept, because as a n absolute statement, I admit women hold an awful lot of leverage when they invoke the word rape.

My point is this is a political campaign that will result in over half the electorate being women.

Want to get into a extremely heated discussion just make that statement about illegitimate rape to a group of women, and see how popular you are received.

His statements showed him to be an insensitive and totally uninformed person, who felt he had the right to express his views on rape , in an official manner (candidate for US Senate), as a male, lecturing women on a subject,(rape) which they hold as a subject that men don’t truly understand or sympathize with.


120 posted on 08/26/2012 1:02:20 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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