Posted on 08/12/2012 8:43:00 PM PDT by Zakeet
Indeed. And it will never be good enough for some.
“The author is a cynical Libertarian, unwilling to ever give any credit to anyone who tries to make a difference for the Conservative cause.
Screw Libertarians, they dont know how to win much of anything!”
Exactly ...
“So, apparently the complaint is that the Ryan budget isnt this extreme right-wing budget that would get zero votes in Congress and play into the hands of the Democrats on election time.”
The problem seems to be that the democrats have already successfully labeled Ryan and his “plan” as just that. If we are to support and go with Paul Ryan we are going to have to defend and define that plan aggressively before the Democrats do it.
However that issue is not an issue of who the V.P. pick is or what our plans are at all. That is an issue of advertising, marketing, speeches, debates, interviews and grassroots campaigning. Getting the truth out is the biggest challenge for Republicans in every election. When we succeed at that, we win the election. But too often we don't succeed and the Democrat lies are bought into by the public. That is an issue we would be dealing with no matter what happened with the V.P. pick. We could have nominated Mother Teresa and the Dems would make it so the only thing the swing voters knew about her was that she's a religious extremist who will destroy women's rights.
“The problem seems to be that the democrats have already successfully labeled Ryan and his plan as just that.”
ROFL! ‘successfully’?!? you have a crystal ball for november?
The Democrats are maknig the attack but R+R and Team GOP have counter-attacked.
Advantage Romney.
” we are going to have to defend and define that plan aggressively before the Democrats do it.”
Which is why off-target articles like this are helpful only to Obama.
We're screwed no matter what and picking through the candidates is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Is Ryan perfect? No. Heck, he sucks on immigration. But the author is delusional here. I didn’t say “wrong”, I said “delusional”. It take a break from reality to assume that the American people would support a candidate willing and able to make all the cuts we want. We may as well imagine an America with no illegal immigrations and ersatz American anchor criminals, and with a GDP of 21 trillion. The simple fact is that our fiscal disaster was not created overnight, but incrementally and the solution will follow the same path.
That’s because with the GOP it isn’t.
Haven’t you noticed by now?
Just look at the four Bush campaigns, Dole, McCain and now Romney.
It looks like we should be cutting defense spending too, but Ryan didn’t want to do that. We could cut costs of unemployment, food stamps and whatever other forms of relief by just putting people back to work and growing the market of good paying jobs. What R/R needs to do is to have a jobs plan, and right now, not after the election. This chart says that 41% of revenue comes from individual income tax. They’ll need that revenue to cut the deficit. Jobs!
Ryan’s supported: TARP, Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind (NCLB). All three are wonderful examples of how the Republican party only fights for fiscal sanity when they are a minority party, the second they become the majority they expand Government programs at an alarming rate.
The Ryan plan freezes ... but does not cut ... Medicaid
The Ryan plan spends more on Medicare than Obama’s plan
The Ryan plan does not touch Social Security
The Ryan does not stop the growth in the national debt ... it merely slows it a little bit sometime in the future
Ryan thought there was nothing wrong in forking over a blank check to Wall St, nothing wrong with expanding Medicare by half a trillion and nothing wrong with growing a department that Reagan’s campaign promised to eliminate.
Even if true, would Obama and crew be better on these issues? I don’t think so. They would keep the spigots flowing at an expansive rate and bankrupt the country in the process.
For a liberal Demonrat, he the go-to guy! I can’t stand Mittens but I am not about to promote stinking lying liberals who call themselves “libertarians.”
It seems to me if Romney was “desperate” he would not take a strong figure like Ryan who is sure to draw the barbs but a super safe plain vanilla figure. Fear and desperation are part of the same mix and Romney appears anything but fearful with a pick which by the authors own admission has galvanized the Right.
Like many here on FR any choice made by Romney would have been slammed because they don't care for Romney. In the end the candidates which can offer a glimmer of hope for the future will win and at this time I'm betting on Romney because Obama has proved he is NOT up for the job and has failed at every turn.
I believe as much as voting for Romney people will be voting against Obama.
That would make an excellent ad against Reid, but you could make it about the NV voters with Reid coming after them next.
Correct. Incrementalism is the way back.
What a joke. 3000 words and graphs? Voter please!
The author of this editorial is FOS!!!
Zero Hedge is basically a black helicopter website that caters to the Alex Jones styled mentality. It is speculated that Tyler Durden is just a pseudo-name that is used by a number of contributers at that website. It’s probably the Ron Paulista type folks, ad hoc nausem, etc.
The website Zerohedge.com was founded by Bulgarian "immigrant" Daniel Ivandjiiski whose father, Krassimir Ivandjiiski, is a writer and editor of a propaganda rag in Bulgaria (Bulgaria Confidential).
The pseudonym "Tyler Durden" - that Zerohedge uses for either Ivandjiiski or those ghost writers he allows to publish on his site - is not merely a character in the movie Fight Club, but an anarchist who sabotages the companies he works for, and plots to blow up a capitalist skyscraper.
Despite the denials of Ivandjiiski and those anonymous person who Zerohedge offers up as its "real" founders, the details on Ivandjiiski revealed in Joe Hagan's piece on Zerohedge in "The Dow Zero Insurgency " remain unrefuted by actual facts. That includes the psuedofacts in wikipedia's agitprop article.
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