Posted on 08/12/2012 8:43:00 PM PDT by Zakeet
Freeper Hoodat posted this , hence the quotes .
Rand's writing has some very good points but nearly all of her fans (all believing Christians, for example) reject at least part of her Objectivist philosophy.
From the article:
“Poll after poll shows that Americans refuse to accept changes to entitlement programs, despite their clamoring for someone to fix our debt.”
“Romney and Ryan will lose in November and the image of the heartless Conservative killing granny will resonate with America”
This is what the article said. This is almost exactly the same as what the MSM was saying about Republicans throughout 2010 and predicting that they would lose in the midterm elections.
re: “Apparently the Catholics got mad at Ryan for those quotes and Ryan was later forced to say that he did not believe in the philosophy of Ayn Rand, that it is an atheist philosophy and blah blah blah.”
Ryan’s point was that he didn’t have to agree with her views on God in order to agree with her political/economic philosophy. What’s the problem?
“Rand’s writing has some very good points but nearly all of her fans (all believing Christians, for example) reject at least part of her Objectivist philosophy.”
It goes without saying, but Ryan backed off from them totally. Even I would compliment Nietzsche, who, despite the obvious problems, was an enemy of socialist and government and promoted a radical individualism. You take what is good and you spit out the bad. Ryan surrendered it though:
“I reject her philosophy,” Ryan told Robert Costa of the National Review. “It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview.” He added that he had merely “enjoyed a couple of her novels,” which also included another bestseller, “The Fountainhead.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-vp-paul-ryan-ayn-rand-20120811,0,1175099.story
Yep, food stamps are included in that number. SS has been running in the red since 2010 and Medicare Part A has been running in the red since 2008. Moreover, Medicare Parts B and D (SMI) premiums only fund 25% of the costs. By law, the General Fund picks up 75% of the costs, which is why Medicare will consume the entire federal budget if it is not reformed. Our aging population will drive the costs upward in a fairly rapid fashion over the next 20 years.
ZeroHedge is Soviet agitprop.
Tyler Durden is the name of a character in the movie Fight Club. At last count, more than 40 "editors" were allowed to post using that alias.
Zero Hedge was purportedly founded by several ex-Goldman employees who grew a bit of a conscience. The supposed Bulgarian connection, still mentioned from time to time by MSM rags, was debunked long ago.
More about the organization here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge.
“Catholics got mad at Ryan for those quotes and Ryan was later forced to say that he did not believe in the philosophy of Ayn Rand”
The vast majority of Catholics did not get mad at Ryan. A few left wing academics criticized Rep. Ryan and the MSM falsely claimed that they spoke for Catholics and represented the opinions of most Catholics. Nothing could be further from the truth.
“Ryan’s point was that he didn’t have to agree with her views on God in order to agree with her political/economic philosophy. What’s the problem?”
Well, that isn’t what he actually said.
Just who do you think Tyler Durden would choose for Romney as VP?
Horrible analysis by this writer.
Several of my libertarian and Conservatives with libertarian perspectives love the Paul Ryan pick.
This guy represents Obama.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... he’s done all that and his plan sucks, but it’s better than anything else I have heard recently. Baby steps, baby steps. We just can’t rip everyone off the government teat and expect them to like it. We first have to convince them that the matter is serious, and he’s doing it.
The situation is critical and getting more so. Romney as a businessman, Ryan as a wonk, they see the same problems from both sides and they know it MUST BE SOLVED.
Frankly, given Romney’s tendency to swing swing sharply left at the most irritating times, I was relieved to the point of exhaustion that he chose a Conservative at all!
It could have easily gone to someone that would have us all screaming and ripping our hair out in chunks! Please do remember that.
Both Sarah and Newt came out in favor. I am sure the rest of the Tea Party favorites are not far behind. The mission is DEFEAT OBAMA. There will be time enough for policy meetings and fine tuning — or major revisions — once we win.
But if we don’t win, we’re screwed.
Try not to be such a buzz kill!
The ‘analysis’ is all wet and wrong.
Comparing honest Ryan numbers with fake Obama numbers is apples vs oranges.
The reason Ryan ‘spends more on medicare’ is NOT because Ryan is some big welfare state lib, but Obama STOLE the money to pay for Obamacare! Thankfully some GOP talking heads are playing this up to rebut the phony “Ryan will kill meidcare” meme.
Complaining that Ryan is NOT killing medicare fast enough is ... bizarre.
Romney pick of Ryan shows CONFIDENCE - it means that Romney picked a guy to GOVERN with. Just like Bush did in 2000, he’s not in it to win a particular state, Romney is in it to fix America’s problems and brought a guy on to help him do it.
Really stupid and wrong analysis of a great pick.
So what's not to like?
I reject Rand's philosophy, too - don't you?
I see some huge flaws in that analysis. The years for Medicare on the chart only go up 10 years. Well, we all know this plan affects no one over age 55. So the changes won’t take effect for years past where this chart shows.
It is totally and utterly stupid to claim that we’re “giving” the Democrats ammunition to use against us. That is insane. It’s like saying our country inspired militant Muslims to be terrorists. The Democrats are evil and will make up lies about how evil we are whether or not any “ammunition” is provided by us or not.
And that change in Medicaid is huge. As the article says, expansion of Medicaid is by far the worst aspect of Obamacare. The individual mandate is not a budget-buster. In fact, that’s more of a smokescreen Obama is using to claim the bill is about responsibility when it’s really about huge welfare expansion and redistribution of wealth.
No one ever claimed Ryan’s budget dealt with Social Security. Gingrich and Cain had a great reform for Social Security. Bush tried a minor reform and got slapped down for it. I would expect if Romney/Ryan are elected and see some success in the economy, they would try again.
The biggest criticism is of the American people not supporting entitlement reform. Absolutely right. But if the Republicans can’t even win on modest reform, how the heck do you think a huge austerity package is going to win?
He's got a real bad temper.
Obama's plan takes $700 billion out of Medicare.
Sadly I suspect he’s right on all accounts.
But on the other hand I can’t imagine Washington ever giving up power either way so its not like there ever could be a path to meaningful victory in this Federal(presidential) election.
We need to focus on our State & Local elections to get them ready to resist Washington with any & all means to preserve what little is left of our freedom.
“Washington crossing the Delaware was an act of desperation.
Nothing wrong with that.”
If we extend that analogy then we must presume that the war for our rights will not and cannot be won in this election. That if anything we are simply making a symbolic stand to show & motivate our true countrymen to continue the struggle.
I for one see no path to victory thou Washington. that city, and the people corrupted by its power cannot be turned to respect to restore our rights, and even if it could, it would no sooner restore them than it turns around and take them back with the same supposed power.
If we are to restore and retain our rights, then the means to do so must originate with us & our States not Washington. Otherwise we will be unable to retain them.
“The Ryan plan freezes ... but does not cut ... Medicaid”
And Obama will triple it in cost in 10 years.
“The Ryan plan does not touch Social Security”
It wasnt intended to.
So, apparently the complaint is that the Ryan budget isnt this extreme right-wing budget that would get zero votes in Congress and play into the hands of the Democrats on election time.
Ryan budget was a consensus center-right budget to win the majority in Congress.
The complaints are ignorant doltish ‘analysis’ of the Paultard variety - “hey its not purist enough for me, so its cr*p!” all the while completely failing to properly do the Obama comparison ... IF IT DID, IT WOULD REALIZE THAT THE RYAN BUDGET CUTS THE OBAMA BUDGET PLAN BY $5 TRILLION OVER 10 YEARS!
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