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Obama's Columbia Years (Could you spend 2 years at Columbia without classmates remembering you?)
American Thinker ^ | 08/08/2012 | Michael Iachetta

Posted on 08/08/2012 6:57:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Scoutmaster
Once again, you miss the point. I don't know if actually MATRICULATED and attended class and graduated. The point is did he accept money on a fraudulent basis as a foreign student.

So you say three people remember him. Did he merely audit classes? If he did attend as a full-time matriculated student as you imply, the questions still stand: 1. How did a below average 'stoner' at Occidental gain admission to an elite Ivy League university?????

2. Perhaps you know the answer to this but what exactly PROMPTED this moron to suddenly, two years in, apply to a school on the east coast, a place he had never actually lived,...and it HAD to be Columbia, not Yale etc.?????? Did some friend suggest it to him? A kid with NO money to speak of, who used his dough to get high, suddenly decides.....Yeh, Columbia, that's the ticket!

41 posted on 08/08/2012 8:14:53 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: NewCenturions

Whoever sold him illegal drugs might remember him.

or bought drugs from him


42 posted on 08/08/2012 8:18:49 AM PDT by molson209
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To: chessplayer

Wrong. That was 5 years ago. Axelrod has cleaned up every record that could ever be found to hurt this prick. My gut instinct says that Axelrod would NEVER take the chance that even a single transcript or application will ever be found. He’s had a good 5 years to accomplish it. No reason to think they still exist. The bigger scandal now would be WHY DON’T THEY EXIST?????????


43 posted on 08/08/2012 8:20:00 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Wurlitzer
Anecdotal to be sure, but in my experience someone with minimal expertise running anything using only theories from their MBA is dangerous.

I've always said MBA means "Master Bullsh*t Artist".

44 posted on 08/08/2012 8:20:00 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wayne Allan Root was probably not in the Choom Gang or he would have remembered Barry real well.


45 posted on 08/08/2012 8:25:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: liberalh8ter
Remember when liberals used to use the excuse that there was no way Obama could be hiding things because it would take too many people to be ‘in’ on the conspiracy? As we've seen time and again, from the media to the courtroom, it isn't impossible.

Relatively easy to accomplish, in comparison to their successful concealment of FDR's paralysis resulting from polio.

46 posted on 08/08/2012 8:27:16 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Doc Savage
I don't know if actually MATRICULATED and attended class and graduated. The point is did he accept money on a fraudulent basis as a foreign student.

Neither do I.

However, there was a similar thread yesterday with dozens of FReepers parroting the line that none of his classmates or professors remembered him. This thread is also full of comments about how nobody remembered him - far more comments about that than comments on his foreign student status. In fact, the author of the article makes the mistake of stating that nobody remembers Obama, when that's simply not true.

As conservatives, our currency in the marketplace of ideas should be facts. When we say that nobody remembers Obama from Columbia we're not dealing in facts.

Your other questions - such as how did Obama get to Columbia - are excellent questions.

47 posted on 08/08/2012 8:48:01 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
I think it's odd that only two classmates and one professor have come forward.

One thing that is so out of character, is that Obama allegedly became editor of the Harvard Law Review, during his time at Law School. I hear that this is a coveted position, as it probably looks good on a resume, and places one in a very political "power" position. Surely, not a position given up easily, and yet he had it.

It would seem that an undergrad slacker must've had some kind of academic epiphany before they were admitted and entered such a prestigious law school. And from his perch on the editorial board, there were still no publications with his name? No articles attributed to him?

48 posted on 08/08/2012 8:49:09 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: FrankR

I have believed that to be a strong possibility.


49 posted on 08/08/2012 8:56:05 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: MasterGunner01

1. Who were his girl friends back then?
2. Who paid for Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard?
3. The media dug up anything and everything on Palin, McCain and now Romney. When they could not find something bad they invented it. If the media did its job, Obama could not be elected as dog catcher. Speaking of dogs, see below.
Note: Obama made a reference to eating dog meat as a child in Indonesia.

Conversation between Daryl Issa and Eric Holder:

Issa, “Where are the documents we asked for and subpoenaed?
Holder, “My dog ate them.”
Issa, “Where is the dog?”
Holder, “The President ate him.”


50 posted on 08/08/2012 8:59:13 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If he was such a loner, it was his choice and his lifestyle (gay and drugs) had to have contributed to it. Every once in a while, people from high school and college run into me and I certainly don’t have my face on tv 24/7.


51 posted on 08/08/2012 9:01:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: chessplayer
He’s spent 4 million dollars to cover up his college years, and the media doesn’t find that in the least bit interesting.

Obama hasn't has to spend a cent to cover up his transcripts since it is against the law for the colleges he attended to release them without his approval. There are people who attended with him and even some of his professors who have come forward. So the 4 million figure is made up.

52 posted on 08/08/2012 9:09:28 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: SeekAndFind

Wayne Allyn Root stated on Hannity that there were around 200 students with the exact same major at Columbia as Obama and Root. My question is: How many of those students were black? I’m only interested in this because I’m assuming that there were very few and that group would be especially noticed at that time in history. Also, that group would be especially popular given the atmosphere in a college setting.

Also, I wonder if any professors remember Obama.


53 posted on 08/08/2012 9:09:35 AM PDT by unique1
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To: AnAmericanMother
I was a TA at a major university in the Spring of 1970. Had three sections so a little over 100 students. At the end of the quarter, a student asked me to give him a passing grade to keep his scholarship. He had a 50 average and never came to class. He claimed to come to class. He didn't. Why did I know? He was the only black in those three classes. Do you think that at an Ivy league school in the early 80’s that you would notice a black on campus?
If no one can remember him, a black, at a lily white university, then maybe he was never there.
54 posted on 08/08/2012 9:10:27 AM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
But I think there are plenty of people who knew Barry at the time; they're just the kind of people who like to remain in the background, or whose connection would be embarrassing.

I agree. Like I said, you could find people who remember me in the small circle of people in the Army ROTC with me. Obama's circle likely is a group he doesn't want advertised, and those people are glad to stay mum.

But it is not at all unusual that most people in his class have no memory of him.

55 posted on 08/08/2012 9:15:28 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Scoutmaster
I'm not denying the three people you cite remember him. Maybe they do. Or maybe they are liberals who feel it's their duty to lie about this to protect the 'President'.

My point is: I don't care if 10,000 students remember him. It's meaningless to me. I want to know if he applied as a FOREIGN student and accepted money in the form of foreign student aid. Clear and simple. If he did and actually WAS an American citizen, then he committed fraud. If he wasn't an American citizen, then he shouldn't be President now. Either way he's (Sandra) Fluked!

56 posted on 08/08/2012 9:15:46 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Lou L
No articles attributed to him?

Obama didn't write an article for the Harvard Law Review - the only editor/president (the title has changed over time) not to do so.

However, Obama did write a case note at 103 Harv. L. Rev. 823 (1990).

There's a huge difference between an article and a case note. An article represents independent thought on a topic and discusses how the law should be changed, or may apply given social or technological changes, and cites a large number of cases on point or for analogy. A case note is simply a notice of an important decision by a court and an explanation of the decision.

Obama wrote about an Illinois court holding that unborn children have no legal right to sue their mothers for damage sustained during pregnancy, from such things as alcohol or illegal drugs.

57 posted on 08/08/2012 9:16:32 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: AnAmericanMother; txrefugee

In my Ivy experience, there was a good deal of interaction as well—though less in the large introductory classes and more in the smaller upper level classes.

As my experience was late 80’s and early 90’s — I think that it unlikely that things had become better over the time period involved. Maybe things were different at Columbia, but I find it extremely odd.


58 posted on 08/08/2012 9:19:45 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Doc Savage
I agree regarding the fraud. However, look at the three or more posts immediately preceding your post to which I'm replying. They're all about how nobody remembers Obama.

That's our conservative urban legend, and it's not true.

Every time we say that, we're reinforcing the media and leftist claim that conservatives don't care about the facts . . . they're just after Obama.

59 posted on 08/08/2012 9:21:12 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Lou L
Lou, get to a bookstore today and purchase copy of 'Deconstructing Obama' by Jack Cashill (if you can find one.) If not, go to his website and order one. You won't regret it.

Cashill covers this in depth. Harvard Law Review changed it's policy on Editor just as Obama matriculated. It had previously been a position awarded on merit (grades, acumen, written papers etc.) and was highly prized. However, it was decided (strangely enough coinciding with Zero's appearance) that it would NOW be based on race and popularity. I know, you don't believe it. Check Cashill for the facts. He was actually VOTED in. Beyond belief, but had it been on merit he never would have gotten it. Cashill also explains what was going on in terms of Harvard's law professors at that time which facilitated his ascension.

60 posted on 08/08/2012 9:22:43 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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