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Outcry after bishop's gay marriage jibe
Herald Scotland ^ | Aug 4 2012 | Gerry Braiden

Posted on 08/05/2012 7:18:57 AM PDT by scottjewell

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To: tophat9000

You’re right, that is another valid point. Could even be extended to straight incestual marriage as contraception/adoption/reproductive tech. (sperm donation) could also make in-breeding a non-issue.


81 posted on 08/05/2012 12:21:26 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
Did you see this new Skittles ad? Daily Mail did a post on it too, and it's here.
82 posted on 08/05/2012 2:16:32 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: mlizzy

Wow, I had not seen or heard about that, but thanks for linking to the video and article. Frightening and disgusting, and part of the slippery slope we are descending.


83 posted on 08/05/2012 2:21:41 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
How can you allow two men to marry but a man marry two women?
84 posted on 08/05/2012 2:24:07 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: mlizzy

addendum:
I agree with this as per Skittles ad:

“John Nolte, an editor for the conservative news site breitbart.com says the ad is part of a broader attempt by liberals to remove the stigma of bestiality.
‘You can laugh and say it’s just a joke, but through a war of inches, Hollywood continues its assault to define deviancy down and to normalize destructive behavior. Humor is an excellent way to get us used to and to take the shock value out of something hideous and immoral,’ he writes.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184059/Skittles-accused-bestiality-commercial-woman-kissing-walrus.html#ixzz22i2EZOI3


85 posted on 08/05/2012 2:25:48 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: annalex
"The first stone at the institution of marriage was lobbed by heterosexuals... The homosexuals are simply scavenging on the ruins.

You'e exactly right, annalex. It was a decayed heterosexual society that broke down the "definition of marriage" so that it was temporary, serial, and sterile. At that point, it was exactly what gays were looking for: the gratification of adults, with all else being optional.

In particular: contracepting couples have already turned sex into an infertile-by-design, "unnatural act." They are heterosexual gays.

86 posted on 08/05/2012 2:35:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ( "Let us commit ourselves and each other and all our lives unto Christ our God.".)
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To: scottjewell
I agree too! Here's another strange Skittles ad. I think I'd better stop looking, but I had no idea they were doing these. Ick!
87 posted on 08/05/2012 2:36:29 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: RightFighter

” If you said “hell is for unrepentant sinners” you’d be correct.”

True, but if you also say “homosexuals are unrepentant sinners,” you’d be correct.

A homosexual who is not fighting/resisting his impulses is not repentant. Nor for that matter is a fornicator, an adulterer, or a reviler.


88 posted on 08/05/2012 2:40:24 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: mlizzy

This one is even sicker in its implications, which are both lesbian and teacher-on-student ——this is frightening, & whoever they have doing these ads has an agenda and is very ill. Good lord.


89 posted on 08/05/2012 2:43:43 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: mlizzy

Mlizzy: You have got to see this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsEYqFQZoQA&feature=related


90 posted on 08/05/2012 2:49:17 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Certainly, Mrs. Don-O, I don’t have any more hope for unrepentant fornicators or revilers than I do for unrepentant homosexuals. Repentance is key and involves a change in behavior, not mere lip service.

Perfection can’t be expected, on the other hand, no man can achieve it.

The spirit of this age, however, is to elevate homosexuals to some sort of sacred tragic victim, rather than unapologetic rebellious sinners.


91 posted on 08/05/2012 2:49:48 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

I know what you mean about the “sacred tragic victim” category -— well put. That, plus “misunderstood creative genius.”


92 posted on 08/05/2012 3:13:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ( "Let us commit ourselves and each other and all our lives unto Christ our God.".)
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To: Persevero

The bible does NOT say that homosexuals go to hell. It says that sodomites go to hell. If you can’t grasp the distinction, you don’t belong on this thread.


93 posted on 08/05/2012 3:28:09 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: scottjewell

I agree Scott. Really troubling with the dyke-like looking teacher and the young girl. Sick on so many levels. The other one your sent did say it wasn’t an actual Skittles ad, but I imagine something might crop up soon like that. And I agree; there’s an agenda!


94 posted on 08/05/2012 3:54:32 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Romulus

“The bible does NOT say that homosexuals go to hell. It says that sodomites go to hell. If you can’t grasp the distinction, you don’t belong on this thread.”

Well, enlighten me. Is a sodomite different than a homosexual?

1 Corinthians 6:8-10

8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor HOMOSEXUALS,[a] nor SODOMITES, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. “


95 posted on 08/05/2012 4:11:15 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: mlizzy

ah, did not see that it wasn’t a real one, but yeah, the other one was completely sick. Yes, unless stopped they’ll keep pushing it no matter how sick.


96 posted on 08/05/2012 4:27:18 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Mrs. Don-o

To continue throughout one’s life buggering or being buggered is in defiance of God’s Law. It’s not incorrect to speculate on the future of one’s soul when the sinner dies unrepentant. Priests and rabbis do it all the time.


97 posted on 08/05/2012 6:56:58 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
heterosexual gays

Good term.

98 posted on 08/06/2012 5:14:56 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Persevero; Romulus
The translations of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 are all over the place.

1 Corinthians
  English: Young's Literal Translation Greek NT: Byzantine/Majority Text (2000)
  1 Corinthians 6
9 have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites, η ουκ οιδατε οτι αδικοι βασιλειαν θεου ου κληρονομησουσιν μη πλανασθε ουτε πορνοι ουτε ειδωλολατραι ουτε μοιχοι ουτε μαλακοι ουτε αρσενοκοιται
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, the reign of God shall inherit. ουτε πλεονεκται ουτε κλεπται ουτε μεθυσοι ου λοιδοροι ουχ αρπαγες βασιλειαν θεου ου κληρονομησουσιν

Two words are of interest here. "μαλακας" is literally translated by Young as "effeminate". It is a common swear in modern Greek; as any swear it applies to anything you don't particularly like, but the precise meaning is "one who masturbates", i.e. "jerk"; "μαλακια" refers to something stupid or worthless or deceptive. You can say, "Don't tell me malakies" i.e. don't lie to me.

The word is so important if you visit Greece, that it has two entries in English Wikipedia: Malakas and Malakia. The second entry lists passive homosexuality as a possible meaning.

Observe that "αρσενοκοιται", literally, "male bed partners", and it is listed separately from "effeminates".

You can draw your own conclusions.

99 posted on 08/06/2012 5:40:39 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: IbJensen; Persevero
I quite agree that homosexual vice is a damnable sin, and that those who engage therein ought to be warned of hell, as we are all warned by Our Lord.

What I offer criticism of, is the offhand "Hell is for homos," which -- like most bumper-sticker-length aphorisms --- is troublesome because it fails to make a couple of important distinctions:

If "homos" is taken to mean "people who have a homosexual orientation," --- and that's often the meaning taken --- it's simply false. No kind of orientation in itself puts you in hell. Orientation is an attraction pattern, even a temptation pattern, but not a sin.

The phrase suggests a -- possibly unintended --- link between "hell" and "homo" only --- as if it this were the one hellish sin.

Consider covetousness. This is quite openly displayed and flagrantly encouraged all around us --- think of it, it's the "soul" of the advertising industry --- and one never encounters, on Free Republic anyway, a flip phrase like

"Hell is for the covetous".

Yet that is also Scriptural --- and of course I take it seriously.

We probably don't need to keep lobbing these particular issues back and forth, because I think we're actually in substantial agreement on these.

But imagine the uproar I'd kick up if I were to say

Hell is for those who bombed Hiroshima.

This being Hiroshima Day and all.

Yet that is equally true: target-equals-city bombing being, according to our religion, forbidden because it is indiscriminate killing, a damnable crime. The Church says we could know this from Natural Law; we ought to also know it from the 20+ times in Scripture where God says that the shedding of innocent blood is an abomination in His eyes.

Excusing homosexual vice is not a thing to which we FReepers are prone. Excusing other sins --- well, I should look to my own faults. I've been guilty of that.

100 posted on 08/06/2012 6:39:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he fall." 1 Corinthians 10:12)
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