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Rationing Begins: States Limiting Drug Prescriptions for Medicaid Patients
CNS News ^ | 7/30/2012 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 07/31/2012 9:04:32 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: Shady
If we let them ...

Obviously during the campaign it needs to be made clear to the working people of this country that Obamacare means worse healthcare for them so the deomcrats can re-distribute that money for use for the healthcare of those who expect the government to provide for them. Young people need to understand they will be grossly overcharged for their insurance in order to subsidize retirees.

21 posted on 07/31/2012 11:19:16 AM PDT by In Maryland (Don't Send Law Enforcement to a gunfight carrying BEANBAGS!!!)
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To: notomarx

Thank you. Statins are poison. They create more age related disease than anything, other than possibly BP medicines. I have steadfastly refused to take Statins against doctors wishes for 20 years and will continue to refuse them. It has been my experience that most things respond just as well or better to “natural” or alternative methods as they do to drugs. Researchers have found that Cholesterol does not cause heart attacks & strokes. The stats are just not there for the premise. If I had begun taking the Statins 20 years ago I would probably be dead by now from kidney or liver disease. Instead I am a healthy 79 with high Cholesterol which gives me no problems. Sure, I might have a stroke or heart problem, but aren’t all persons my age at risk for those?


22 posted on 07/31/2012 11:25:41 AM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: In Maryland
I disagree strongly with Alabama's decision to not cover psychiatric drugs - lord help us, we have enough crazy people on the streets as it is! Stopping psychiatric drugs is not only a medical issue, but a public safety one.

For some reason I initially misread your statement as you were in strong agreement. Fortunately just my bad eyes and I don't have to engage in a big fight with you! Not to say there aren't some problems with certain psychiatric drugs and their abuse -- but blanket denial is irresponsible and dangerous for the public, especially in the case of anti-psychotic drugs. Also, I'd hate to be a patient on SSRIs and be abruptly cut off (been there, done that, for other reasons). Sudden discontinuation syndrome is no joke.

23 posted on 07/31/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: IbJensen
a larger number of people will be covered by Medicaid, as the income cap is raised for the program

Wait a minute - I thought that the current system was "unfair" because there were all these free-loaders who didn't pay for coverage?
Now you tell me ObamaCare is increasing the number of free-loaders??
I'M SHOCKED!

24 posted on 07/31/2012 11:49:16 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: WVNan

Good for you. Statins are poison and they destroy your liver. If you watch your sugar intake, you will cut down on a lot of the ills of our age. The American Diet consists of no nutrition at all except for sugar. Insulin resistance causes everything from aging, cancer, heart problems, dementia, Alzheimer’s, High blood pressure. Oh throw in a little coconut oil or any saturated fat which is really only coconut oil.
You have broken the odds against your getting sick good luck.


25 posted on 07/31/2012 12:36:03 PM PDT by notomarx
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To: WVNan
No liver or kidney disease to report in either my mother (96) or myself, both on statins for around 20 years. Liver enzymes monitored all along.

In fact,

Renoprotective effects

Besides their cardiovascular effects, statins may slow the progression of kidney disease.

Look up "GREACE" study.

Good luck to you. I hope those aren't "famous last words" in your comment toward the end.

26 posted on 07/31/2012 12:53:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: notomarx
Statins are poison and they destroy your liver.

Only in rare instances. Early on it was thought there might be a high incidence of deleterious effects. This turned out to be illusory. Many physicians have discontinued the enzyme screenings or do them only infrequently now (the latter is probably the prudent course of action).

27 posted on 07/31/2012 1:01:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: In Maryland
I realize there are people who legitimately need more expensive brand-name drugs. But they are a small minority.

Well, what will happen is what has happened in every country with socialized medicine, including places like Sweden and Canada. Those with political connections will get the good drugs and the expensive procedures and get moved to the front of the line, while the others will get the generics and wait for even basic tests and operations.

Right now, my loser nephew gets treated the same as I do. We both get prompt, excellent treatment.

28 posted on 07/31/2012 1:15:01 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: steve86

As I have said I am not qualified to give advice. I have although read about many current studies that do show serious S/E from taking statins. The medical world, I’m sure is not aware of these private group controlled test. Nor do they want to be.


29 posted on 07/31/2012 1:24:30 PM PDT by notomarx
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To: rurgan

It’s no wonder these asshats that have ruined our nation and our lives want to disarm us!

Think Madrid, 1936!


30 posted on 07/31/2012 2:01:17 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

Is health care a right possessed by all Americans?


31 posted on 07/31/2012 4:10:32 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: In Maryland

Is health care a right possessed by all Americans?


32 posted on 07/31/2012 4:11:27 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: svcw

Can you tell me what Medicare is rationing?


33 posted on 07/31/2012 5:52:52 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme

Medicines.
I have a thyroid medicine they will not cover, because someone somewhere has decided that I should use a generic brand, except that this particular thyroid medicine does not have a generic.
I was on my husbands employee health care plan the day I turned 65 I was dropped, I was told because of obamaCare.
Forced onto medicare.


34 posted on 07/31/2012 6:49:36 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Thank the Kenyan for America’s medical problems!!


35 posted on 07/31/2012 8:19:24 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
These hospitals better stop the wagon because it’s all going to be flushed in November.

I correctly predicted the court would not overturn ZeroCare and I will further predict that none of this will be overturned by Romney, it might be renamed but they have spent hundreds of Billions on implimenting this abomination and it is no more likely to go away than a temporary tax increase.

36 posted on 07/31/2012 10:53:15 PM PDT by itsahoot (Old people cost too much money. They make lots of typos too.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Of course not.

Contrary to what the communists who are running and ruining this country say, the rights are “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

That’s all folks!

And the central socialist government shouldn’t be socialist and should be a shadow of its former self! It should never tax the hell out of working people to give to some lazy-assed blob who doesn’t even know what the Constitution is and couldn’t name the first president of the United States, who happened to be the BEST president of the United States whose picture USED to hang in every classroom of every school I attended until University.


37 posted on 08/01/2012 7:46:10 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen
We agree that there is no "right" to health care.

It therefore follows that those who are getting their health care from Medicaid (and to a partial extent Medicare) are receiving that care at the sufferance of the taxpayer.

And as that taxpayer, I damn well want rationing, if the alternative is an unlimited raid on my wallet.

38 posted on 08/01/2012 9:14:38 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Notary Sojac

Then ‘healthcare’ ,as provided to those suckers like me who paid several hundred thousand dollars into the ponzi scheme known as social security, should be abolished for the newer workers. In fact, abolish the abortion for all! I do want some of the money (a meager amount) returned to me from a central socialist government who stole it from me, plus the amount they mugged my employer for.

This is an evil nation with evil schemes all designed to pull America into the socialist swampland.


39 posted on 08/01/2012 9:24:02 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Notary Sojac
I don't believe so - it's not a right. Neither is it a right to eat.

However, as a humane society we provide benefits to poor people. These benefits are a gift that taxpaying Americans have agreed to give to (in general) the financially disadvantaged, because of our basic decency as human beings. As with any gift, it is the giver and not the receiver who determines the extent of the gift. Or who should, anyway.

40 posted on 08/01/2012 9:40:58 AM PDT by In Maryland (Don't Send Law Enforcement to a gunfight carrying BEANBAGS!!!)
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