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Making Sense Of The LIBOR Mess, A Free Market Perspective
Forbes ^ | 07/18/2012 | Bill Flax

Posted on 07/19/2012 3:57:29 PM PDT by billflax

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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Ethics? I had that course in law school. Later, as a trial attorney, ethics was not knocking down & robbing the client at the initial interview as there was plenty of time for that later. Being a lawyer, officer of the court, or judge meant all of us were in the scam as a tag team. The only way one lost a law license was failure to pay yearly dues to the bar/lawyer organization.


21 posted on 07/19/2012 6:28:21 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Brilliant
We'll see. There are some really large numbers involved. Just saw this on Bloomberg

Libor Woes Threaten to Turn Companies Off Syndicated Loans

"Banks are accused of massaging down submissions for the benchmark for $360 trillion of global securities during the financial crisis and artificially increasing them before it.”


22 posted on 07/19/2012 7:06:41 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Deagle
"How in the world can the individual investor survive when major monetary agents are controlling it with computer controlled buy/sale orders? I see no chance for the individual investor in anything!"

Investing is dead, long live the traitor (er, I mean trader).

23 posted on 07/19/2012 7:09:58 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Deagle
Sorry, but this is just another reason to mistrust those in charge. We have a manipulated stock market, a manipulated banking system and we are just suppose to sit back and watch what happens? This is what happens when government and business become intertwined (ie. government run by lobbyists).

Dead on right. Game, Set, Match. Well done.

24 posted on 07/19/2012 7:12:52 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Brilliant

Can’t negotiate on an ARM mortgage note. It is my understanding from what I read elsewhere that the banks manipulated the Libor downward when they were borrowing from each other (to make their financials look strong) and then manipulated it up in order to increase mortgage payments, car payments to beef up profits.

I have an ARM mortgage My note explains in detail the libor rate in relation to how my payments would increase but it was not disclosed to me by the other party that they could and would manipulate the libor to their advantage.

I would not have signed the note if I had known that the rate could/would be manipulated to the other party’s advantage. Collusion+misreprsentation=fraud and note is voidable


25 posted on 12/20/2012 9:29:01 AM PST by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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