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Chinese gunboat stuck in shoal near Palawan [Philippines]
Philstar ^ | July 13, 2012 | Jaime Laude

Posted on 07/13/2012 4:53:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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US, China square off over South China Sea.........."Several Asian governments have expressed worry about China's expansive maritime claims. Tensions have threatened to boil over in recent months, with a standoff between Chinese and Philippine ships and sharp disagreements between China and Vietnam.

China claims virtually the entire area and has created an entirely new city to administer it, sparking deep concern from rival claimants. The sea hosts about a third of the world's cargo traffic, has rich fishing grounds and is believed to store vast oil and gas reserves."............

1 posted on 07/13/2012 4:53:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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2 posted on 07/13/2012 4:58:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like they are anchored to me?


3 posted on 07/13/2012 5:21:09 AM PDT by rawhide
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If that ship did run around, I suspect the captain has been shot by the political officer and throw overboard by now.


4 posted on 07/13/2012 5:39:08 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Give the crew safe passage home (after a thurough “medical exam” to include the what, why, and how) and then strip down the vessel like the ChiComs did the US plane years ago.

You can return any junk you want after that. I hear most of it is “Made in China” anyway. (From US ideas and patents, however).


5 posted on 07/13/2012 5:41:21 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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To: rawhide

That isn’t a current photo.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 5:48:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Sounds like a sitting duck situation to me.
The Phillippine Navy whould board it, take possession of it, then tow it to the nearest port and turn it into a museum.


7 posted on 07/13/2012 5:51:12 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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The Phillippine government should sieze it and trade it to North Korea for USS Pueblo.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 5:52:51 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: BuffaloJack

I heartily second your proposal!


9 posted on 07/13/2012 5:59:27 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is there some part of journalist training where they are taught to deliberately mis-label warships, especially in headlines.

Usually it’s calling everything a “battleship” but this time it’s calling a frigate a “Gunboat.”


10 posted on 07/13/2012 6:00:50 AM PDT by Strategerist
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That’s why they call it “Mischief Reef”.


11 posted on 07/13/2012 6:03:38 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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Couldn’t they afford to put a foward scaning and side scaning Sonars on the ship? Really, my guess is they were making a “hero run”, running fast at night with all Sonar and Radar off trying to be undetected and relying only on GPS and charts that hadn’t been updated..... and they stuffed it! Did somebody screw with the GPS signal?


12 posted on 07/13/2012 6:30:15 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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Hmmm... Kinda like the Japanese military vessel that “ran aground” in Baja in the early 1900’s.


13 posted on 07/13/2012 6:34:46 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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“Salvage operations could be diplomatically challenging, given the vessel appears to have run around within 200 kilometers of the Philippines Coast, which is squarely within what Manila claims to be its Exclusive Economic Zone,” the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

Exclusive economic zones are not the same as territorial waters. Foreign ships, even warships, still have free passage through them. Now whether this shoal is part of the Philipines or not and therefore extends the territorial waters is another question.

14 posted on 07/13/2012 6:44:29 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: WellyP

Maybe it was intentional.

http://manilastandardtoday.com/www2/2012/06/01/military-wary-of-chinese-in-panatag-shoal/

June 1, 2012 - “MILITARY officials said Thursday they were worried that Chinese forces might put up markers or structures on the disputed Scarborough Shoal in the West Philippine Sea to bolser Beijing’s claim to the area.

“We will wake up one day and see markers or a small structure already planted inside or outside the lagoon to boost their claim,” said a ranking military official who spoke on condition of anonymity.”...................


15 posted on 07/13/2012 6:46:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Philippines isn’t in a position to push the Chinese around.


16 posted on 07/13/2012 6:52:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A few well placed rounds or torpedoes should eliminate any need for salvage operations.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 6:55:39 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: BuffaloJack

You can build ships but ships do not a navy make—its about traditions, training, and how these are used. If it was just ships—Italian Dictator Mussolini would have beaten the British Royal Navy in WW II. China is trying to become a naval Power and its going to take more than some ships.


18 posted on 07/13/2012 7:26:23 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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This is the flagship of the Philippine Navy... Yes, that's a WW2 destroyer-escort, one that hasn't been modernized. The largest ship they have in service is a 1960s Coast Guard cutter.
19 posted on 07/13/2012 7:47:15 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: Strategerist
Usually it’s calling everything a “battleship” but this time it’s calling a frigate a “Gunboat.”

That was my first thought, but on reflection they are not what would be a frigate today.

This is not a modern warship - No ASW, littleAA

Although relatively new, the Jianghu V class were produced in the mid90s but dusting off the plans of the 70s Jianghu I (and those ships were at least 15 years behind world standard then).

The aim was to build up the Southern Fleet numbers of patrol ships quickly and cheaply. Not for combat, just ships to provide a military presence - the classic gunboat role.

The Jianghu V are gunboats, not frigates

20 posted on 07/13/2012 8:12:19 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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