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Prep School 101: Five .22 Rifles for the End of Times
guns.com ^ | 10 July, 2012 | David Higginbotham

Posted on 07/13/2012 4:37:57 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: leaning conservative
Please don’t laugh, but what is the difference between a rifle & a shotgun?

A rifle has grooves cut on the inside of the barrel to stablize a bullet in flight. Those grooves are called "rifling", hence the name rifle.

A shotgun doesn't have the rifling as it's mostly intended to fire multiple projectiles (shot) of various sizes from a single cartridge. Now there are rifled barrels available for shotguns but they're intended for shooting cartridges with a single projectile (called a slug) which are intended for larger game such as deer or bear.

Now here's where some folks are going to disagree with me, loudly. ALL firearms require "aiming", even shotguns. That suff about clearing out a room with a single blast from a shotgun is Hollywood garbage.

Now GENERALLY, I'd recommend a smaller gauge (20) instead of a 12 guage shotgun for smaller or recoil sensitive shooters. Yes, larger numbers are actually smaller cartridges in the world of shotguns.

Can you tell me what caliber handgun you bought? I may be able to give some suggestions to tame the recoil a bit.

L

41 posted on 07/13/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: marktwain

Yes, but they can be a bear when shooting the AQT. For a SHTF auto, I’d prefer them to a mag fed but if you ding the tube, you’ll have problems. BTW, I had a nylon 66 and Marlin 60 and loved them both.


42 posted on 07/13/2012 6:27:25 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: marktwain

Bookmark for later research.


43 posted on 07/13/2012 6:32:56 AM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Laz would hit it.)
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To: marktwain
I hate to disagree because, I do enjoy my 22s. But if every thing does go to hell, where are you gonna get ammunition for a .22. Reloading rimfire ammunition is not an option. I think the old guys out west 125 years ago had the right idea. What will be needed is a center fire handgun and rifle chambered the same. While I am partial to .357 Mag/.38 Spec, there are other rounds that are effective. Plus there is reloading equipment available that will fit into a fairly small container.
44 posted on 07/13/2012 6:34:23 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: Eye of Unk

There are Appleseeds in AK. In fact, we will see 40k nationwide go through the program this year. We teach you the skills to consistently hit targets at 500 yds using a rack grade rifle, surplus ammo and iron sights from the prone unsupported and hear some little known Rev War history, too. You can’t beat the price, either. Others will charge you $500+ for what we do for darn near free. We’re volunteers.


45 posted on 07/13/2012 6:34:43 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Tupelo; All
I hate to disagree because, I do enjoy my 22s. But if every thing does go to hell, where are you gonna get ammunition for a .22.

The solution is to stock up now. .22 ammo is relatively cheap, and makes good trading material. You can buy 6000 rounds of .22 ammo for the cost of a simple reloading outfit.

Not that I disparage reloading, but the cost of a primer is more than the cost of a .22 cartridge.

I have reloaded many thousands of rounds of ammunition over the last 50 years, but it is very hard to beat the utility and cost of .22 ammunition.

46 posted on 07/13/2012 6:36:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I like the Rossi Matched Pairs. I have a youth sized .22LR/.410 that I got for the grand kids to shoot at the farm and a full sized .223/20 gauge. Only takes a few seconds to switch barrels. Very affordable and pretty darned accurate.


47 posted on 07/13/2012 6:36:48 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: marktwain

I got a neat Remington bottom eject semi auto .22 which breaks in two. It was manufactured in April of 1927. Price was an awesome $0. It shoots, but it needs a parts kit, it’s kinda worn since these were often arcade guns. The fact you can put it in a back pack kicks butt though.


48 posted on 07/13/2012 6:41:05 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Excellent response. I had forgot about the new air rifles. They could be a viable alternative.
Thanks
49 posted on 07/13/2012 6:41:38 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: The Duke

I would love a refurbed nylon. What does one cost?


50 posted on 07/13/2012 6:44:19 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: ebshumidors

Yep. I’d much rather rely on a solid .22LR semi-automatic and keep my Bushmaster chambered for 5.56mm.


51 posted on 07/13/2012 6:44:35 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: marktwain

Agreed! You can buy a crapload of .22 compared to what it would cost to reload even using pulldown powder, bullets, primers and pick-up brass. I have rvow.com do my .223 for $.08 rd, cleaned, sized, trimmed, primed and sealed. I still have to buy bullets at $90 per 1k and pulldown powder for $90 per 8lbs. If someone knows cheaper, let me know.


52 posted on 07/13/2012 6:45:57 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: ebshumidors

I have a Ruger Olympic tricked out as a tack driver, and it seems that the .22 is just a naturally messy round, if you don’t clean the heck out of it after every 100-200 rounds it starts stovepiping rounds frequently...


53 posted on 07/13/2012 6:46:38 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: The Duke

I`ve always thought that Nylon 66 is the best .22 ever

made.The gun has always fired for me except for about

twice in the 35 or so years I`ve owned it

Read somewhere its the favorite gun of Eskimos,it will

work in pretty bad conditions


54 posted on 07/13/2012 6:47:36 AM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: marktwain; saganite

“Stingers are ok, but now I prefer the Velocitors.”

Aguila .22 LR Super Maximum 30-gr. HP have been my choice, but the Velocitors look interesting...will have to try ‘em.

With the Aquila after several hundred rounds, I have not had a misfire, from either my 10/22 or my Ruger Mark I.


55 posted on 07/13/2012 6:50:51 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: leaning conservative

Simply put, you generally aim a rifle and point a shotgun.


56 posted on 07/13/2012 6:50:57 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: melissa_in_ga

Melissa, come to an Appleseed. We have an excellent cadre in GA and they’ll probably let you use a loaner rifle. See my tagline or PM if you have


57 posted on 07/13/2012 6:52:21 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

You don’t need HP for rabbit or any other small game.

I put down cows with a .22 solid, it’ll put down small game and they don’t run it you hit anywhere in the vitals.


58 posted on 07/13/2012 6:55:01 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Harold Shea

Go to the link in my tagline and look at some of the AAR pictures on the forum. We shoot in ALL conditions. You really learn how good your equipment is.


59 posted on 07/13/2012 6:58:58 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: marktwain

I don’t disagree with the choices but I am somewhat taken aback by the uniform choice of semi autos. They are hard to maintain in a shtf scenario whereas a straight single shot can, to a large extent, be repaired with a file, a hammer, a hacksaw and a junked car for raw materials.

I will also add that those of us who have straight single shot center fire or muzzle loading rifles will be shooting black powder for years after those who are using store bought ammo have run out of stores. Guaranteed.

A single shot .308, IIRC, will accurately shoot .312 round ball ( at slow speeds as well as higher speeds) and the round ball weighs, IIRC, 45 grns. Sound familiar?

Ammo might be become so valuable in the SHTF scenario that acquisition of a 50 round box of 22lr might involve a substantial amount of food or medicine and perhaps some recreation time with your wife or girlfriend. Selco deals a bit with the latter on his blog and it was not unknown in his area.

So, choose carefully. Keep in good repair a good, serviceable center fire non repeating single shot rifle at all times.


60 posted on 07/13/2012 7:02:48 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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