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Fiery Reaction to Marine’s Stolen Saddam Rifle (Marine Convicted of Possessing Iraqi AK-47)
The Press Enterprise ^ | July 6, 2012 | JOHN ASBURY

Posted on 07/07/2012 5:22:04 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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Former marine convicted of possessing Saddam's AK-47

Former Marine Joel Cleve Miller was convicted in U.S. court of possessing a fully automatic AK-47. Weapons experts determined the gun was from Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan because of its markings.

1 posted on 07/07/2012 5:22:12 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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Earlier FReeeper thread posted about this ...

Hemet: Marine convicted of smuggling rifle from Saddam palace (AK-47 stolen from Saddam’s palace)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2902615/posts


2 posted on 07/07/2012 5:23:44 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

He should have known enough to make it inoperable, at least temporarily.


3 posted on 07/07/2012 5:26:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Related news link references and FB page ...

“Fiery reaction to Marine’s stolen Saddam rifle”

http://blog.pe.com/crime-blotter/2012/07/06/fiery-reaction-to-marines-stolen-saddam-rifle/

“Former Marine guilty of having AK-47 from Iraq”

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2012/07/ap-former-marine-guilty-ak47-iraq-saddam-hussein-royal-guard-070312/

“Free Joel Cleve Miller US Marine”

http://freejoelmiller.com/

Joel Dutch Miller (Face Book)

https://www.facebook.com/joel.d.miller.14


4 posted on 07/07/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I think I found a use for “don’t ask, don’t tell.”

On another note, I don’t see a problem with war trophies being registered as long as they don’t create a hazard to the community, like unexploded ordnance. If someone wants an artillery shell, have EOD drill it out. Other than that it’s fine with me. The guy was willing to give his life for this country, why not let him take something home?


5 posted on 07/07/2012 5:34:15 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: DogByte6RER

When my father walked off the aircraft carrier Kittyhawk on his return from the Pacific after WWII, one of the guys in his bunking area walked down the gangplank and onto US soil with several barrels sticking up out of his seabag - including a Thompson SMG.

My, oh my, how things have changed.


6 posted on 07/07/2012 5:37:02 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Looks like a machine pistol AK to me.


7 posted on 07/07/2012 5:37:36 PM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: DogByte6RER

Dang that is one good looking AK.

Too bad he did not lose the firing pin.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 5:40:08 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: DogByte6RER

Don’t we have a policy of one AK-47 per household?


9 posted on 07/07/2012 5:45:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: pingman; All

I’m not necessarily trying to defend the guy ... he got the Big Chicken Dinner for other misconduct.

But ... the AK pistol is chrome plated suggesting that it may have been used as a ceremonial weapon for Saddam’s palace guard. While palace guards would be expected to carry functional and loaded weapons, maybe there was something like a palace guard precision drill team? If so, it would make sense that the weapons were de-activated.

I’m just thinking out loud ...


10 posted on 07/07/2012 5:48:06 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
All they have to do is make it so it cannot fire on auto, and then it is simply a collectors item.

What a bunch of anti-gun hysteria.

11 posted on 07/07/2012 5:48:42 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Paladin2

If not, we should!


12 posted on 07/07/2012 5:49:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh, I think that was only for the Iraqi households. My bad.


13 posted on 07/07/2012 5:53:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DogByte6RER

“federal prosecutors found the gun was a functioning machine gun.”

Federal prosecutors have found a shoelace was a functioning machine gun.
Really.

We’re talking an agency which WILL convict you if they want to.
Not saying he was right or wrong, just that there is room for doubt. Lots of room.


14 posted on 07/07/2012 5:57:56 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Your talking Commiefornia here man; where anything short, stubby, black , shiny, with a pistol grip, flash suppressor or any thing that will hold more than one squirt of water is considered a weapon of mass destruction. The media p#ssys just wet themselves some thing fierce when they see any thing as lethal as a rubber band gun. I just wish I had been smart enough to retire out of state, but stuck here now.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 6:04:29 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: DogByte6RER

We’re doomed.


16 posted on 07/07/2012 6:05:07 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: DogByte6RER

What are the chances this Marine didn’t know the difference? Slim to none.

OTOH, it was quite the souvenir!


17 posted on 07/07/2012 6:15:50 PM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: Gabrial

losing the firing pin doesn’t do it because firing pins are commonly available. Per the ATF you would have to destroy the receiver to demilitarize it.


18 posted on 07/07/2012 6:16:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: driftdiver
He should have known enough to make it inoperable, at least temporarily.

No problem, the Feds would just fix it and proceed with the prosecution. They have done this to numerous demilled weapons.

19 posted on 07/07/2012 6:17:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: wastedyears
The guy was willing to give his life for this country, why not let him take something home?

That is reasonable. But we are now living in a communists inspired Country and we are now all criminals. No way to escape since we are lawed to death. Freedom is gone.

20 posted on 07/07/2012 6:18:39 PM PDT by Logical me
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