Posted on 07/07/2012 3:14:17 AM PDT by rawhide
First we have the case of the fired life guard,now this crap?People will do there jobs in the way proscribed by their bureaucratic masters,or pay the consequences.
Yeah, I took some smoke and got treated. I'm no hero, but did what had to be done. Any of my brothers would have done the same thing.
Someone in that department should get get their head on straight.
Don’t forget all the cops that stood around while a guy almost drowned at a beach in CA because the “rescue” team wasn’t around. A civilian went in and saved him.
Does it place the Firefighter at risk? Certainly.
A Firefighter places himself at risk when he climbs onto the apparatus.
Is it a smart move? Ask the lady he shared it with.
I would bet he doesn't consider himself a hero, just a man doing his job.
The POS who told him it isn't a smart move is the Richard head who should be investigated.
This attitude of self survival is happening in all Fire Departments now as people who join the ranks for the pay are replacing those who joined for the tradition.
First thing I was taught as a lifeguard is always preserve your safety first, even if it means pulling away from the drowning victim. Yes, it was selfless of him to give the lady his mask, but if the fire had flared up, and he had been overcome, she would not have been in a position to take over and get them both out, resulting in loss of both. With his mask on, he would have reduced the chances of not being able to get himself and his victim out. She might have suffered more smoke inhalation, but thats what the paramedics are for.
It’s not all that honorable, but the investigation is still warranted because he violated a critical procedure.
That's what heroes are made of.
You have obviously not been in this situation,
Gee, going into a burning warehouse was not a smart move. /s
I don't know the answer, but this might be a case where statistically getting out fast is safer for both than sharing the mask and cold logic is better than an attempt at kindness in the heat (pun slightly intended) of the moment.
Which one would you count on most to save your a**?
>>First thing I was taught as a lifeguard is always preserve your safety first<<
He made a spot decision that saved her life.
He was trained and knew what he was doing.
FP, the apple did not fall far from the tree.
You and your father are both heroes.
Yep. That wonderful one-size-fits-all mentality of a government bureaucrat, it’ll kill initiative every time.
That top fire dept official should be removed from his job. People in that area need to protest via tv, radio stations and newspapers. Put the pressure on!!!!!
The obvious solution to this would seem to be to bring two masks. Is this solution a little bit too obvious?
this guy is a selfless hero, and deserves praise for his actions.
He also risked both their lives by giving up his gear.
the investigation SHOULD go like this:
captain: come into my office, close the door.
fireman: ok
captain: you should not have taken off your mask and put it on that woman. It was aginst procedure.
fireman: ok
captain: don’t let it happen again.
fireman: ok
My questions is how in the hell did it get into the papers, and publicised like this?
who is the little weasel that wanted to take a selfless act and turn it into a firing squad?
I find it sad that our society has come to this in such a short amount of time.
hell, the police were not called to a damn elementary school to arrest a little kid. The principal would kick his ass, send him home, and his parents would kick his ass again.
heroes were honored as such, and investigations like this one never saw the light of day.
what happened?
His stupid visors should be promoted to dog poop scoopers at the firehouse where they can demonstrate their ???????
I'm not so sure. I appreciate what the firefighter did, but I also understand the rationale for the rule. It's a hard case and there is an argument to made on both sides. I am glad that they are both OK, and I hope no one, even the top fire official, loses his job or suffers any consequences. The firefighter may have to settle for the gratitude of the community and his own piece of mind as a reward.
“Its not all that honorable, but the investigation is still warranted because he violated a critical procedure.”
Balderdash!
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