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13 June 2012 | Grig (aka TheCrewsayder)

Posted on 06/13/2012 6:05:21 PM PDT by Grig

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To: Grig

You mean the “white horse prophecy”, fake.....hahahah
Denial, it’s been denounced, JS never said it - that’s what lds say to “outsiders”.
My considerably large lds family all beleive that Romney is the fulfillment of the WHP.
Before you ask, when they talk to me they tell me everything because I am viewed as a “primitive”.


221 posted on 06/15/2012 9:11:09 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Grig; svcw; greyfoxx39; SZonian; All
Why do you care (or pretend to care) so much about what Mormons think of your creeds? Why is our approval so important to you? It is strange.

(Well, that's just rich.

Listen, I've appreciated Mormon zeal...and Grig's empassioned appeal I guess could be commended somehow (still trying to figure out where)...But what tends to happen with such zeal is a lack of objectivity...

So I've put this Grig lopsidedness into chart format to note the sheer hypocrisy exercised here by Grig...(This shows Mormon elitism -- what is 'perfectly acceptable' for Lds, Inc & grassroots Mormons to do under $BILLIONS in budgetary expenditures -- becomes highly suspect when any loose-knit Evangelical group engages Mormonism)

Grig Spewing Away @ Evangelicals

Grig's Latest Question Reveals Lopsided Approach to Dealing w/Those of Other Faiths + (Grig's own Q turned back on him)

Grig's Vanity accusatory rant: "Not only did the anti-Mormon posters oblige us and demonstrate the level of hate and bigotry in their hearts, but so did the anti-Momons within the leadership of FR. And thus began the decent of FR from a vibrant ad-hoc conservative think tank into an echo chamber of yes men with a loud group of religious bigots leading the way." "Why do you care (or pretend to care) so much about what Mormons think of your creeds? Why is our approval so important to you? It is strange." (Grig, Post #196) Tell us, Grig, why isn't it a fair turnabout question then to ask: Why do you care (or pretend to care) about what the 'leadership of FR' does? What do you care (or pretend to care) about what a handful of FR posters post about Mormonism? Why are Mormon assumptions about Christian creeds supposedly unassailable, yet you can assail FR leadership as well as Evangelicals (as would-be assassins, 'haters' and 'bigots?')
"There has been some very inflammatory rhetoric from some corners of the evangelical world about having a Mormon POTUS..." (Grig, Post #105) "Why do you care (or pretend to care) so much about what Mormons think of your creeds? Why is our approval so important to you? It is strange." (Grig, Post #196) Tell us, Grig, why isn't it a fair turnabout question then to ask: Why do you care (or pretend to care) about what 'rhetoric' that 'some corners of the evangelical world' have about a Mormon POTUS? What do you care (or pretend to care) about what a handful of FR posters -- or other Evangelicals in distinct venues -- say about Mormonism? Why are Mormon assumptions about Christian creeds supposedly unassailable, yet you can assail "the Evangelical world" (as would-be assassins and 'inflammatory') Why do you apparently deem it NOT as 'inflammatory' for Mormons to label 100% of Christian creeds as an abomination?
"The intense level of vitriol spewed by some Evangelicals toward Mormonism..." (Grig, Post #165) "Why do you care (or pretend to care) so much about what Mormons think of your creeds? Why is our approval so important to you? It is strange." (Grig, Post #196) Tell us, Grig, why isn't it a fair turnabout question then to ask: Why do you care (or pretend to care) about how intense Evangelicals comment about Mormonism? Why are Mormon assumptions about Christian creeds supposedly unassailable, yet you can assail Evangelicals (as would-be assassins and 'vitriolic'?) Why do you apparently deem it NOT as 'vitriolic' for Mormons to label 100% of Christian creeds as an abomination?

There ya have it: Grig's open dual standards -- for the world to see...

222 posted on 06/15/2012 9:17:11 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Grig; Colofornian; colorcountry; Jim Robinson
Well, after pointing out how FR has devolved into an anti-Mormon love-fest, hurting FR in the process, (a view several non-Mormon posters above expressed agreement with)

AWWWww, out of thousands of FReepers only "several" agreed with you on "FR devolving into an anti-Mormon love-fest, hurting FR in the process," and only garnering interest of a measley 200 replies to your whine, NOW you're gonna run away and hide.

LOL...don't let the door hit ya.

BTW, believing that the many ABO posters on FR are pro-mormonism because they want Obama gone is about as intelligent as believing that Joseph Smith is a "true prophet of god".

Romney is seen as the lesser evil to most ABO FReepers.

223 posted on 06/15/2012 9:23:13 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

It started out that SLC lds were hired by Hughes because he thought they were honest.
It turned out they striped him of much of his wealth, kept him a virtual prisoner, starving him, and denial of medical attention.
When Hughes died SLC lds laid claim to his fortune, challenging Hughes will in court.


224 posted on 06/15/2012 9:26:28 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Grig
First off....I am supporting Romney fully....I don't like him nor his religion....but I'm supporting him fully....

next of all....CATHOLICS are routinely bashed on FR ....its not just Mormons...

and lastly, some of the Mormons here on FR are over the top at times...defending every Mormon who ever walked the earth...

I call the behavoir clannish.....almost like when one Mormon states something a call goes out for all FR Mormons to post on the thread....that is how it appears...

again...I support and will vote for Romney, maybe even put his sign that he personally sent me on my door....

you're going have to learn to buck up on FR....people piss me off all the time and I'm sure they get pissed at me....but this is what goes on in forums....

225 posted on 06/15/2012 9:28:34 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Grig

Oh get over yourself.
You get on here post a whiny thread on how much you hate Christians and then bitc# they fight back.
You get on here a bitc# about FR and wonder why people don’t challenge you.
Good grief, you are playing the mormonism persecution card well, now go back to your women’s society meeting and tell everyone about it.


226 posted on 06/15/2012 9:32:01 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Grig
If you think US elections don’t have an impact on things up here in Canada you are very mistaken.

Ah...that's your excuse for accusing Evangelical Americans as "assassins and nutjobs"...."?

I really don't think that your defense of the mormon cult will have an impact on Canadians give the ugly history of the polygamist Joseph Smith-inspired child-bride colonies in Canada.

Your whine is about "poor little mormons" not being able to proselytize without rebuttal on FR, nothing more.

What was the last FR thread you began that was a description of mormon doctrine?

227 posted on 06/15/2012 9:35:36 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: Grig
"...hate fueled..."

More irrational appeals to emotion. See, I don't play those games. Claiming that others are being intellectually dishonest, while you yourself are engaged in the same, doesn't do much for your credibility.

"Well, if you are trying to rebuke somebody out of love and all they perceive is hatred then you are not doing a very good job, are you?"

A disappointing, but expected reply. I see that you are still trying to drop the blame at others' feet.

Funny thing, mormons will tell gentiles, to read and pray about the BoM, but when you yourselves are challenged by non-mormons, it's "hatred" to do so? Just how does this work in your world Grig?

How is it that I'm still responsible for your inability to process the information without it being perceived as "hatred"? Cognitive dissonance.

The problem with mormons such as yourself, is that you want it both ways. You want to be able to tell yourselves that you are the only correct church, send 50k+ missionaries out telling others the same and then say that any who refute, rebuke or reject what you believe are guilty of "hatred".

Stop the pity party already, your false prophet and subsequent false prophets did all they could to degrade Christians and Christianity. This "persecution" complex mormons have built up to defend/deflect criticism is pathetic.

Read the words of your own prophets who challenged people to challenge mormonism, to "bring it".

228 posted on 06/15/2012 9:49:18 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Grig

You flatter yourself...egocentric and narcissistic, just like another pretender.


229 posted on 06/15/2012 10:02:08 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Grig
If you want to exaggerate your grievance by falsely saying we hold the rest Christianity as 100% wrong when we see a lot of common ground, you can do that to, but it makes you look dishonest

"If you want to exaggerate your grievance by falsely saying we hold the rest of Christianity as 100% wrong when we see a lot of common ground"...there IS no "common ground" because mormonism preaches multiple gods while Christians know there is only one true GOD, and mormonism preaches that "God and Jesus were once men" who had to work their way up. The very nature of GOD is basic to Christian faith. Claiming your god to have been a common mortal is not.

These mormon beliefs are anti-Christian. Deal with it.

230 posted on 06/15/2012 10:35:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: Grig

And now that you are done you can leave. Go back to your antifreeper cave and collect your hero’s reward.

Bye.


231 posted on 06/15/2012 10:36:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Grig; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; ...

232 posted on 06/15/2012 10:44:11 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Hoisted on his own petard.


233 posted on 06/15/2012 10:49:16 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Grig; CatherineofAragon

God’s hand did not write the dictionary...

I would tend to stick with his definitions of what a Christian is, not some professor in an office many years ago...


234 posted on 06/15/2012 10:55:45 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: colorcountry

I think it was deliberate on Grig’s part...reminds me of the MittBots in ‘08 who dared JR.


235 posted on 06/15/2012 11:05:35 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson
Looks like Grig's latest attempt at hosing us pigs (reference to the infamous thread) backfired on him, permanently.

Thank you, JR.

236 posted on 06/15/2012 11:09:18 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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237 posted on 06/15/2012 11:17:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Jim Robinson

Strangely Jim, it must be a sign of honor to be zotted by you.

Mormons have a persecution complex. Perhaps getting zotted -
especially by you, as opposed to an “ordinary” moderator -
let’s them boast of extra worthiness due to the magnitude
of the zot. It appears they try to get in your face in order
to collect boast-worthy persecution accolades.


238 posted on 06/15/2012 11:22:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: ejonesie22
"Don't you need to get back to TrueBlueWhiners..."

She alerted that site before she posted with a thread that claimed it would probably be her last post, LOL. Now they can all hoot and holler and high-five each other. So childish.

239 posted on 06/15/2012 11:25:58 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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240 posted on 06/15/2012 11:44:13 AM PDT by humblegunner
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