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75-year-old man charged with fatally shooting boy, 13(WI)
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| 1 June, 2012
| Bruce Vielmetti
Posted on 06/11/2012 6:04:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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This may be an extremely rare real first degree murder of a young black teenager by a frustrated white man.
A victim of multiple burglaries, we do not know if he had any evidence to connect the victim to those crimes.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:04:46 PM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
From the description, there is no maybe to it! This is first degree murder at its most succinct level.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:10:16 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: marktwain
How soon until the Justice Brothers Al and Jessie be dispatched
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:10:33 PM PDT
by
funfan
To: marktwain
How soon until the Justice Brothers Al and Jessie be dispatched
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:10:50 PM PDT
by
funfan
To: marktwain
Now this is something that people can rightfully be enraged about instead of the Martin/Zimmerman thing.
To: marktwain
That sort of thing wouldn’t happen, if we brought back the death penalty for theft.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:14:13 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
To: marktwain
Also from the srticle:
Earlier that morning, Spooner had told Ald. Bob Donovan, whom he met inside a George Webb's restaurant, that burglars had taken about $3,000 worth of shotguns from his home two days earlier, that he suspected his neighbors and that he was frustrated police had made no arrests.
Donovan said he mostly listened as the men sat at the counter, and Spooner ate a breakfast of two pancakes, eggs and sausage.
He said he has known Spooner for years and knew Spooner had been a crime victim many times in the past and had even installed surveillance cameras on his home's exterior. He said Spooner mentioned that he was lonely since his wife died in 2004 and that he was dying of lung cancer.
"He seemed burdened, truly burdened," Donovan said Thursday.
Cryptic comment
He said Spooner also said something else - that "there are other ways to deal with situations" the police couldn't solve. Donovan said he didn't really take it as more than a passing comment at breakfast.
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According to court records, police seized 16 guns from Spooner's house in December 2006. According to his handwritten form to reclaim them, the guns were taken because a felon had been a guest at Spooner's house.
The guns included eight rifles, four shotguns and four handguns. A judge ordered them returned to Spooner in April 2007.
At the crime scene Thursday, detectives recovered two .32 caliber shell casings, one from the porch of Darius' house and one from the grass next to it. There were two rounds still in the gun, including one in the chamber with strike mark, suggesting the gun had misfired on an attempted third shot. A man can just take so much. Things just build up and explode.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:16:19 PM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
To: marktwain
Sounds like his life had been turned into a living hell.
I don’t think it will be any better in prison.
Will probably claim some ‘diminished capacity’ defense.
May even be true.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:17:24 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
To: marktwain
Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose
Those predators had made his life a living hell. Just because you are white and have something, doesn’t mean those who aren’t white and don’t have anything have the option to prey on you. You can only push people so far.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:18:00 PM PDT
by
yldstrk
( My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: marktwain
Sure looks on the surface to be a cold blooded murder.
What a horrible story.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:18:29 PM PDT
by
Gabrial
(The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
To: marktwain
From the article ... "
installed surveillance cameras on his home's exterior"
Just wondering what those cameras told him.
To: marktwain
Spooner should go to prison for the rest of his life. If he thought he knew who took his guns he should have called the police.
The black community has every right to be angered by this one.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:21:31 PM PDT
by
mardi59
(THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
To: Tainan
The boy's mother chimed in, telling Spooner he should just go back inside.
Yeah, she just "chimed in". I would love to hear what she actually said. We'd probably need an interpreter.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:22:46 PM PDT
by
Krankor
To: marktwain
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:24:00 PM PDT
by
avenir
(I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
To: yldstrk
Well, just maybe his mother wished that he had not stolen the white man’s property, if that is true.....at 75, what else could he do wrong, police “probably wouldnt investigate the robberies, and so living with all those African thugs around him, he would settle the score in the wrong way
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:24:39 PM PDT
by
Bullfrogg
(American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
To: marktwain
the old white guy was easy prey. He had enough from the breakins and harassment and took matters into his own hands. Sad story.
To: marktwain
This may be an extremely rare real first degree murder of a young black teenager by a frustrated white man. Or perhaps Spooner knew exactly who did it, from his surveillance cameras, and confronted them. Perhaps he didn't care because he's dying anyway, and was tired of being preyed upon.....perhaps....
To: Krankor
ya, I agree there’s more to “just go back inside”.
To: MHGinTN
From the description, there is no maybe to it! This is first degree murder at its most succinct level.If no evidence of a connection is found after a real honest investigation, I agree.
If evidence of guilt is found, I would find the old man "not guilty."
There is a limit to what the innocent should tolerate. Living in fear has got to be worse than the most PC "cruel and inhuman" punishment imagineable.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:30:52 PM PDT
by
publius911
(Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
To: marktwain
If he had,in fact,frequently been the victim of thefts it would be understandable that he'd be
very angry.But unless he had strong evidence that the kid was involved this is,
at best,a *very* unfortunate event.If he is,in fact,dying of cancer it seems to me that a case could be made that this widower is suffering from a serious psychiatric disorder.
Just some random thoughts....just that IMO,even if the kid was,by chance,involved in one or more thefts it didn't warrant a death sentence.
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posted on
06/11/2012 6:32:39 PM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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