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GOP mood toward Romney's fall prospects brighten
AP via Yahoo ^ | June 10, 2012 | Brian Bakst

Posted on 06/10/2012 8:04:12 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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To: WhiskeyX
“Cain was a member of the San francisco Federal Reserve, which is a position beholding to the New World Order crowd.”

The primary is over... my candidate lost. I don't believe it was because he was part of a conspiracy to screw up the primary. It seems more likely that he wasn't able to adequately answer allegations about his personal behavior. You are free to believe what you want however.

61 posted on 06/11/2012 7:15:21 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: MEG33

Obama was put into POTUS for the purpose of stampeding voters into accepting any alternative whatsoever or Obama. Either way, the Republic has been setup to lose in this and the last POTUS election.

Your only other alternative is to demonstrate to the Republican Party that its leadership cannot stampede you into accepting the unacceptable, and they must satisfy the minimum requirements for Republican government or face replacement by people who will and are not beholding to the GOP RINO leadership.


62 posted on 06/11/2012 7:18:03 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: USS Alaska
Lower taxes,

When did Romney lower taxes?

repeal of obamacare,

He want's to repeal and replace. The significance of this may be lost on you, but his replacement plan will be no better than Obamacre.

drilling and mining of the natural resources,

That's new talk for him

less regulation, lefty indeed?

He loves regulations, EPA, Cap and Trade, all kinds of left wing stuff. The only regulations he will try to set aside are the ones his buds don't like.

63 posted on 06/11/2012 7:19:12 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: WhiskeyX

I can’t wait to vote Obamanation and his admisistration out.
Hurry November!


64 posted on 06/11/2012 7:27:32 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: fireman15
There was no primary election in the State of Washington. The Democrat controlled legislature canceled the primary election. The party caucus was used as the sole substitute for the canceled primary election. In our precinct, Almost half the votes went to Gingrich. Romney didn't get even one-quarter of the votes.However, the way in which the delegates to the county convention and caucus were selected, about 70 percent of the delegates represented Romney with only one delegate, myself, represented Gingrich. In other words, the will of the voters in this precinct was subverted and not represented by the canceled primary election. Instead, many of the delegates to the Republican county convention were current and/or former Democrats who publicly admitted to having voted for Obama in the last election and for Romney in the present caucus substitute for the canceled primary election.

Given the monumental scale of vote fraud in the past primary and general elections along with the present rigging of this year's elections, no one can honestly claim the upcoming General Election is fair and honest for the electorate. The integrity of the elections have been and are being grossly compromised by massive vote fraud. The results are not valid representations of the will of the electorate. The rule of law and Constitutional protection of the minority and majority of Citizens is compromised. Pretending otherwise only helps the fraudulent government to continue and accelerate the destruction of the Republic and its Constitution.

This is not a new or novel situation. In the years prior to the American Civil War, the Democrat Party perpetrated such overwhelmingly massive vote fraud in what came to be known as Bloody Kansas. The Democrats ushered in the Missouri Border Ruffians to vote in the Kansas elections, until there were more pro democrat votes than there were people in Kansas.

Today, you have a genuine conspiracy to commit massive vote fraud in the 202 General Election. The prosecutions of the former ACORN organizations and their current successors are just the tip of the iceberg.

65 posted on 06/11/2012 7:46:06 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: CharacterCounts

Although it’s a really small item Romney really did raise taxes on ‘the blind’.


66 posted on 06/11/2012 7:46:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MEG33

You may feel that way now but what about january 21, 2013? Don’t be coming around here telling us we need to impeach the jerk.


67 posted on 06/11/2012 7:47:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MEG33

Yes, there is always someone around who would rather see Lenin in office instead of Stalin, Medvedev instead of Putin. The rest of us would rather see a republican George Washington instead of a RINO socialist-marxist Mitt Romney.


68 posted on 06/11/2012 7:52:40 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: bill1952
Turns out that we've only had two modern elections where the total vote was meaningless ~ tilden v. hayes, and bush v. gore ~ in the rest of them the total vote and the percentages correlated well with the polls on relative popularity.

That's why at this stage I'm looking at the general trend, not the detail in states where it might be closer.

When the time comes I will 'splain why it looks like Virginia is going to have such a low turnout and who might benefit one way or the other from that. In the meantime a Romney candidacy can win if and only if Obama gets 15% fewer votes than he did last time.

That ain't nevah' hoppen!

Still, as a general prognostication, I think the American people are tired of the Great Obama Recession and think somebody can do better ~ we have SEVERAL REPUBLICAN candidates who can elicit that confidence. We are running a guy who doesn't even elicit that confidence among Conservatives.

Not that this election is a joke ~ none of them ever are ~ but a lot of the old rules of thumb don't count this time.

69 posted on 06/11/2012 7:57:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WOSG
The precedent for assuming that Obama can win is that Roosevelt, who had progressively worse economic records, won THREE MORE TIMES!!!

All he needs to win is the votes.

The way you win is you first hold your own base then you peel off a faction or two from the other guy. We are running a guy who has yet to prove he can hold the Republican base. He is running against a guy whose own factions are HIGHLY UNLIKELY to switch and vote Republican ~ more likely they will simply not vote for the top position.

That's why we need to operate under the assumption that Obama has to lose 15% of the vote he had last time, and that we cannot count on picking it up ourselves.

Our candidate has to be charismatic in the extreme to overcome the problem that our last two candidates for President came nowhere near the number of voters that Obama got! In fact, we have a declining vote total 2004 to 2008!

70 posted on 06/11/2012 8:07:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MichaelCorleone
Roosevelt was RE-elected three times!

It's more than reasonable to believe Obama can win again ~ he beat us last time with 10 million votes. Let's say this time he loses 9,999,999 votes ~ he still wins eh!

The details are not that important ~ we have been winning fewer votes each recent election.

The chances for our candidate to get beaten like a used rug are incredibly high.

Our would-be political masters in the GOP-e FORGOT history.

I think the most relevant campaign to compare to is 1940. The Republican party tapped Willkie, a lawyer and utilities executive, to run against FDR in 1940, even though Willkie was a former Democrat (see http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/teachinger/glossary/willkie-wendell.cfm )

71 posted on 06/11/2012 8:15:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RaisingCain

Sounds like Willkie!


72 posted on 06/11/2012 8:17:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

So don’t vote for him. Elect Obama.


73 posted on 06/11/2012 8:18:03 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: WhiskeyX
We had Conservative Republicans rigging the primaries here in Virginia.

The corruption is from the head down, and bottom up. Our politicians have lost their sense of right and wrong.

There are ways that can be corrected ~ but it will take new heads!

74 posted on 06/11/2012 8:25:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: csmusaret
Look, the GOP-e threw the election away with Romney. He simply can't win against Obama. And that has nothing to do with Conservatives. We could all show up and vote for Romney and give him a vote total like we gave George Bush ~ he'd still lose by a good 5 million votes or more!

Doesn't matter how a Republican votes in this election as long as the Democrats are still around.

I recommended going after the youth vote ~ they should be tired of Obama's cr*p by now, but NOOOO, you had to find a guy who said he liked to fire people!!!!!

You only have to say that once ~

I proposed Gingrich as being both interesting and entertaining, and well trained to speak to young people and get their attention. Even Cain figured out how to get them to eat more Pizza and Romney's record in that regard (Yes, Bain owned a pizza company when Romney was there) was miserable. Cain clearly won the pizza wars.

GOP-e professionals have not gotten any brighter since the dark days of Roosevelt v. Willkie.

75 posted on 06/11/2012 8:32:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

So long as the voters remain willing to compromise their integrity and the failings of their candidates and parties, the candidates and parties have no incentive to change their bad behavior.

There is no time like the present to let the GOP leadership know in no uncertain terms that there are limits to how far the voters will tolerate a candidate embracing the political planks of the socialist-Marxist political philosophies.


76 posted on 06/11/2012 8:37:08 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Rennes Templar

Well it is Romney’s to lose. Remember it is the ECONOMY STUPID!


77 posted on 06/11/2012 9:09:51 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Well it is Romney’s to LOSE. It is all about the ECONOMY STUPID!


78 posted on 06/11/2012 9:11:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: WhiskeyX
Spoken as a true kamikaze conservative, seeming incapble of understanding that elections must be one before policy implemented. Your all-or-nothing attitude will leave you and your troops forever watching (and belly aching) from the sidelines as politician either preserve or destroy our constitution and country.

Your hero Barry Goldwater was just as ineffective in actual politics, but he did deliver some good speeches.

My hero Dutch, on the other hand, was very pragmatic and actually accomplished all that was accomplishable under the circumstances.

Reagan made a difference, Goldwater did not, even though their philosophies were quite similar. Regan understood that compromise is the art of politics.

The kamikaze conservatives are very counter-productive to their goals and efforts. Almost all of them are piss-poor salesman, never convincing the middle ground much of anything. Elections are won on the middle ground.

Please stop and consider how your words and actions are hunting the very things you claim to love.

79 posted on 06/11/2012 10:24:39 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Buffalo Head
Actually, Goldwater rejected Social Conservatism and Social Conservatives. His interest went no further than the military and budget matters.

We have a realpolitik problem here in that over the last two presidential races the Republican vote totals have declined yet the Democrats have increased their share and the vote totals. Last time the Democrat got 10 million more votes!

We can win only by increasing share of the vote and the absolute number of votes. Obama wins by doing nothing ~ in fact, he can take up to a 15% hit on his last tally in 2008 and still win.

80 posted on 06/11/2012 10:51:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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