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Texas GOP Oks more-lenient immigration platform
AP via The Houston Chronicle ^ | Friday, June 8, 2012 | Will Weissert

Posted on 06/08/2012 11:02:32 PM PDT by esarlls3

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To: dragnet2

I’m tired of fake conservatives and fake Americans. Anyone supporting illegals in any capacity is scum. Period. They have no place in this country.

And their ‘logic’ is that of liberals. Excuses, one after another. “We cant build the fence...we can’t deport...we can’t...”

Yes we can! Help or leave. But they will have their usual tantrum, tell me I have no ‘right’ to say these things and go right back to helping enable the destruction of their country while crying “Don’t you DARE question my patriotism!


21 posted on 06/08/2012 11:57:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Amazing

I was banned for taking your stance over this issue in 2005

For a year


22 posted on 06/09/2012 12:07:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (the GOP are cowards)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Phony conservatives abound...In fact, I believe were surrounded by traitors and betrayers, those benefiting off this massive violent invasion, those with conflicts of interest in one form or another.

Profits regardless of consequences, will eventually leave America dead on the floor.

The big money flowing into the GOP by big biz, is a payoff to keep that cheap endless illegal labor flowing. Same with the Dems.

It’s the exact reason why nothing was ever done to secure our borders. In fact, this plays into the fedgov strategies of total control, as it divides the once united.


23 posted on 06/09/2012 12:08:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: wardaddy

If I were to be banned for standing up for my country, I’m fine with that.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 12:14:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: EternalVigilance

Romney/Perry/Bush/McCain party


25 posted on 06/09/2012 12:32:50 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers.....)
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To: dragnet2
The big money flowing into the GOP by big biz, is a payoff to keep that cheap endless illegal labor flowing.

Big business and the Chamber of Commerce...and for that matter the Catholic Church as well.

They don't care what kind of financial ruin illegals bring. They don't care that they don't assimilate.

I used to live in a suburban Chicago town with a huge flood of illegals that began in the 80s. Many parts of the city looks as if it is in Mexico (with many signs in Spanish only). You have two or three families living in one home which limits income for the city from property taxes (smart move for the families of course--I would do it too), almost 100% are low-skill, low wages (again, low tax revenue for the city), and of course the city is broke!

I have talked with teachers and they tell me of the frustrations: overcrowding classrooms, buildings in need of repair, much money spent on ESL programs, one of the lowest graduation rates outside of the Chicago public schools, gang fights, etc.

I knew someone who served in the city council for a long time. For a long time he (and all the others) would talk about the city's diversity as such a strong talking point. I asked him if it bothers him about all the illegals, about the fact that they are not assimilating, and all the problems associated with it. His answers did not surprise me. He admitted the problem with illegals is tremendous. That they underestimated the numbers arriving. They really thought they would assimilate, just not as rapidly as hoped. The numerous gangs that have created so much trouble and murders over the years. That while they are a source of cheap labor, they are also a source of financial difficulty. Yet nothing will be done to stop it since the mayor is a Democrat.

Here is the part that shocked me. He also addressed "white flight". Publicly, he and others have cried racism, but privately it has been acknowledged that the whites that left were the ones that provided much revenue in property taxes and the illegals contribute very little to the tax base. To counter "white flight", the city has tried to attract businesses (bars and restaurants) that would be more appealing to whites (and especially to their wallets). He told me that the few businesses that have set up shop were somewhat reluctant at first, but the mayor offered them tax breaks as an incentive. The jury is still out if it will succeed.

But I digress....back to the GOP and illegals and big business/chamber of commerce....I just want to see in the future when the GOP can't get any votes due to lack of numbers. They will be dumb enough to wonder why they are in such a hopeless situation. Then I want to laugh in their faces for the mess they took part in.

26 posted on 06/09/2012 1:32:43 AM PDT by eekitsagreek (got no money and you got no car, then you got no woman...and there you are!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

This is the Texas GOP. President Bush tried to get amnesty passed a few years ago. This is nothing new for the Texas GOP. I find myself out of tune with the GOP, state and national, more and more lately.


27 posted on 06/09/2012 3:28:37 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: esarlls3
What happened to the GOP in Texas? Were they taken over by the hispanic coalition?

From 2010's platform:

Legal Immigration – One nation, one flag, one language, one loyalty; America is a country of immigrants, we should insist that any immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself/herself to the United States. He/she shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else. This is predicated upon the fact that the person is in every facet an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance. Anyone who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t American at all. We have room but for one flag, the American Flag. We have room for but one language here and that is the English language. We have room for but one sole loyalty and that is loyalty to the American people. (Teddy Roosevelt, 1907)

Illegal Immigration – Secure the Borders Now.

With growing impatience the American people in overwhelming numbers have asked our Government to secure our borders. They now demand it and we as a party agree with the American people. Illegal aliens have by definition violated U.S. law.

We oppose illegal immigration, amnesty in any form leading to citizenship, or legal status for illegal immigrants. We support an end to the “catch and release” policy; criminal penalties and aggressive enforcement for those who knowingly employ illegal workers; expeditious hearings on deporting non-violent illegal immigrants; amending the U.S. constitution to suspend automatic U.S. citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants; elimination of federal and state funding to cities with “sanctuary” laws; empowering state and local law enforcement agencies with authority and resources to detain illegal immigrants; rejection of non-verifiable foreign-issued cards as valid identification; strict prosecution of any entity involved in phony identification documents; elimination of day labor work centers; elimination of laws requiring hospitals to give non-emergency care to illegal’s; elimination of social security benefits or federal and state funding to illegal’s for education, housing or business loans; preventing any foreign entity from using our judicial system to enter the United States; document verification prior to issuance of a Texas drivers license; withholding federal highway funds from any state issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens; and aggressive prosecution of persons smuggling humans across our borders. We support requiring all employers to utilize E-verify system to confirm the legal status of all new hires.

Enforcement of Immigration Law – We support strict and immediate enforcement of all immigration laws. Birthright Citizenship – We call on the Legislative, Executive and Judicial branches of these United States to clarify Section 1 of the 14th amendment to limit citizenship by birth to those born to a citizen of the United States: with no exceptions

28 posted on 06/09/2012 3:32:20 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: esarlls3

Anyone of any entity that mentions “Temporary Worker” or “Guest Worker” in regard to the Illegal Alien issue...supports Illegal Alien Amnesty. Yes they do

Sad that Texas GOP is going pro-illegal...when states traditionally more liberal are toughening up their platform against Illegal Aliens.

Texas needs to start acting like Arizona...and get a clue on the continuing problem of Illegal Alienism.


29 posted on 06/09/2012 4:41:41 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (CNN ratings are so down, Ted Turner asked the UN for relief)
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To: esarlls3

Shoulda been a RINO/Barf alert.

Hell, It worked for Ike. Our transportation system is a LOT better these days.


30 posted on 06/09/2012 5:29:39 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: esarlls3

Shoulda been a RINO/Barf alert.

Hell, It worked for Ike. Our transportation system is a LOT better these days.


31 posted on 06/09/2012 5:30:00 AM PDT by Flintlock (THE TRUTH: It's the new hate speech..)
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To: samadams2000
Thank you! Down here in little Latin America (Florida), I feel your pain.
32 posted on 06/09/2012 5:34:05 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Texas GOP misplaces spine, abandons sovereignty, caters to illegals over America.

Impractical my ass. They lack the will. Nothing more.”

‘GOP’ being the cornerstone of this statement.


33 posted on 06/09/2012 5:37:26 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: dragnet2
We call on the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the United States to clarify Section 1 of the 14th amendment to limit citizenship by birth to those born to a citizen of the United States with no exceptions.

Maybe you missed that part.

34 posted on 06/09/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: wac3rd

Yup.


35 posted on 06/09/2012 6:58:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of the republic begins the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: eekitsagreek
Big business and the Chamber of Commerce...and for that matter the Catholic Church as well. They don't care what kind of financial ruin illegals bring. They don't care that they don't assimilate.

I forgot the Catholic Church! What a bunch of frauds they are.

Absolutely, they're like Home Depots, illegal alien sanctuaries.

We're surrounded by betrayers, traitors, liars, and those with conflicts of interest, where their profits/power mean more than saving our homeland or their own grand children for that matter.

36 posted on 06/09/2012 9:13:23 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

“if they paid an appropriate fine”

They will keep making their installment plan payments to their coyote criminal organization for sneaking them in, but they won’t pay any stinkin’ fine to US: they know the former is serious while the latter is not.

Screw you Rombots ......


37 posted on 06/09/2012 9:17:52 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: jospehm20
President Bush tried to get amnesty passed a few years ago.

As phony deceitful liberals masquerading as conservatives, swoon at his feet and post adoring picture of him....Day in the life of.....

These people are far beyond disgusting.

38 posted on 06/09/2012 9:18:22 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: smokingfrog
They want some kind of conk'nbull clarification after Texas is overrun with millions of illegal aliens? You buy this sh*t?

As Texas politicians and everywhere else kiss their asses while standing on the tax payers backs for the past 30 years, forcing them to subsidize their own demise?

Maybe we should have more debate uh frog? You know, lets get some clarification, and debate this for another 30 years. While the U.S. has been completely over run, the politicians will get some more stinking clarification over drinks at some posh hotel...Gak

You're joking right?

39 posted on 06/09/2012 9:31:56 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Secure Our Borders –We can cancel this, it will never happen.More illegals will come Modernize the United States Social Security Card , again this will not happen, wishful thinking.
Birthright Citizenship , this will never happen.When future illegals come and have kids, and we will hear, they had no choice or say, do not punish kids for crimes of parents.
Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program .This will not work, employers will bypass any Temporary Worker Program so as to keep wages low and will hire more illegals to replace the illegals listed in this plan..Farmers will keep illegals on GOV heath plan by dropping off illegals at er’s and letting taxpayers take care of providing medical services, illegals leave never pay their bills and hospitals write off the bills
What they did not address is, what will be done in say about 20 years when the country is flooded with millions of illegals aliens once again? Who will be making the same demands as the current illegals. We would see supporters say, they are deporting low level offenders, whose only crime was having a headlight out,no drivers license, sepeartion of families, etc,etc, when they should focus on dangerous offenders.I did not see in their plan what they would do about that tax loop holes.Does anybody remember,recently it was disclosed,”We’ve seen sometimes 10 or 12 dependents, most times nieces and nephews, on these tax forms,” the whistleblower told Eyewitness News. “The more you put on there, the more you get back.”

The whistleblower has thousands of examples, and he brought some of them to 13 Investigates. While identifying information such as names and addresses on the tax returns was redacted, it was still clear that the tax filers had received large tax refunds after claiming additional child tax credits for many dependents.

“Here’s a return right here: we’ve got a $10,3000 refund for nine nieces and nephews,” he said, pointing to the words “niece” and “nephew” listed on the tax forms nine separate times.

“We’re getting an $11,000 refund on this tax return. There’s seven nieces and nephews,” he said, pointing to another set of documents. “I can bring out stacks and stacks. It’s just so easy it’s ridiculous.”

20 kids = $30,000

WTHR spoke to several undocumented workers who confirmed it is easy.

They all agreed to talk with WTHR investigative reporter Bob Segall and a translator as long as WTHR agreed not to reveal their identity.

One of the workers, who was interviewed at his home in southern Indiana, admitted his address was used this year to file tax returns by four other undocumented workers who don’t even live there. Those four workers claimed 20 children live inside the one residence and, as a result, the IRS sent the illegal immigrants tax refunds totaling $29,608.

13 Investigates saw only one little girl who lives at that address (a small mobile home). We wondered about the 20 kids claimed as tax deductions?

“They don’t live here,” said the undocumented worker. “The other kids are in their country of origin, which is Mexico.”

He later explained none of the 20 children have ever visited the United States – let alone lived here.

http://www.wthr.com/story/17798210/tax-loophole-costs-billions

Does anybody think illegals will give this up, filing for free easy money, that gives them thousands of dollars ?


40 posted on 06/09/2012 10:04:07 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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